Hypo Kentucky Derby ... 1950's Style

Cajungator26 · #1 07-19-2006, 02:44 PM

I'd go with Native Dancer, although I think Needles would have given him a run for the money.

randallscott35 · #2 07-19-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'd go with Native Dancer, although I think Needles would have given him a run for the money.

Cajun, I'm friends with Dave Erb, the rider of Needles. Asked him who the best horse he ever rode was, and he said Swaps.

Kasept · #3 07-19-2006, 03:21 PM

1. General Duke
2. Native Dancer
3. Nashua
4. Round Table

#4 07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

1. General Duke
2. Native Dancer
3. Nashua
4. Round Table

Errrrrrrrnnnnnntttttt !!! [sound of the "wrong" buzzer]

Gen. Duke never made the Derby ... or anything thereafter.

Tom Fool didn't either ... but he was 2YO champ and raced both before and after that year's Derby. Hey ... on that basis I should have also included Nadir ... I'll go back and add him.

Can't include the good Gen. ... or horses like Sir Gaylord, Hail To Reason, Hoist The Flag, Graustark, Boldnesian, etc. ... on any of these lists.

I wouldn't include Kelso, Buckpasser, or Wajima either because they weren't ready to rumble in May/June as 3YOS.

Kasept · #5 07-19-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Gen. Duke never made the Derby ... or anything thereafter.

I wouldn't include Kelso, Buckpasser, or Wajima either because they weren't ready to rumble in May/June as 3YOS.

Gen. Duke was ready until Friday Derby Week until Harthill "decided" he should be scratched.. Having had a complete sophomore spring up to that day, I don't see why you wouldn't include Gen. Duke in the discussion. He would have won that Derby. And as the best horse ever bred by Calumet, (by farm employee acclamation), and 9f record holder at Gulfstream for more than 40 years, he certainly has a claim to be part of a '50's era Fantasy Derby.

Cajungator26 · #6 07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Cajun, I'm friends with Dave Erb, the rider of Needles. Asked him who the best horse he ever rode was, and he said Swaps.

That's interesting, Randall... thanks for the info!

It'd be one hell of a race any way you look at, wouldn't it?

Downthestretch55 · #7 07-19-2006, 03:42 PM

Intersesting that Swaps got mentioned. I'm not sure but don't two of his records still stand?
Anyway, when he was mated to Bimlette, No Robbery came along.
No Robbery and Clear Road gave us Going Straight, sire of Bourbon Slush,
the dam of my broodmare, Bourbon Streettune.