Time to stop the open funding of terrorism!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

"The first casualty of war is the truth", Ernest Hemmingway.

The situation here is grave. I believe the "if" no longer exists and rightfully should be replaced with "when" in regard to the bombing of TA.

Should the escaltion include more Syrian/Iranian troops and ordinance we shall be back in the same situation as 1973 (Yom Kippur War).

It is "well Known" that nuclear loaded aircraft were in the air waiting for a deploy order should the Arabs have crossed the Jordan back then. Fortunately or NOT the Arabs collapsed.

Dateline: Herzilya, Israel

Well, finally you are seeing some clarity.

It is so very disappointing to see the Israelis trying yet again to oppress the Lebanese into submission for the stated purpose of "stability" in southern Lebanon. I actually hope the UN, as well as a multi-nation peacekeeping force, takes the stability of Lebanon more serious this time. After all, the Israelis did this very same thing in 1982. And failed. And Israell did this very same thing in 2000. And, of course, Israel failed. Hopefully they will not fail yet again, though failure seems likely.

It probably will take some action against TelAviv to move public opinion in Israel that last needed step toward seeking peace.

It's been 25 years since Israel started the transformation of Beirut from being the "Paris of the Middle East" into looking like an ordinary TelAviv slum.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Arabs bomb Nazareth (birthplace of JC) killing two children in a predominantly Arab city. This was NOT a good idea when the most powerfull man in the world is a "born again Christian" who may very well believe he is carrying out
God's work.

The scuttlebut I am hearing is chilling. All 4 scenarios for the end game are horiffic. It has been 61 years since a nuclear bomb was used in war at an enemy target. Both Israel and the US are TIRED of taking casualties. This is exacly the positon the US took in 1945 re: predicted casualties in an ivasion of mainland Japan.


The "body count" reported in the news is 10% of what it actually is for the Arabs. My guess is Conde shows up on Yom Kippur to say Kadish for the Arab world.

The time is limited for American Hating Arabs like yourself to be able to walk our streets in safety.

This situation wreaks of the "Wansee Conference", only this time it is the "final solution" to the Arab problem.

The "scuttlebut" you hear is the sound of your head scuttling further up your butt. You do not hear anything worth a sh1t. Really now.

What you're hoping for is just not going to happen. You're just an old man sitting in his chair watching CNN proclaiming to the world and pretending to yourself that you have Omert's ear. Uh huh.

And, of course, you're wrong. I'm not an America hater. Just hate the foolishness that you and other war-mongering oppresssors profess as the correct solution. Many, many billions of people see the world different than you. And you cannot accept that they may be right.

Israel blew the Lebanon issue in 1982 and again in 2000. I suppose that is also my fault? Israel, along with the U.S. have really f***rd up in Lebanon., leaving the fledgling democracy of Lebanon up for grabs. The U.S. had a war to lose and the Israelis needed to get back to those ever-scary, sling-shot toting Palestinians.

You just don't get it. Never will, probably never have. But knowledgeable, non-robotic people see this for what it is.

Again, the deal to be made is with the Syrians. And it will be made. Get used to it.

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Arabs bomb Nazareth (birthplace of JC) killing two children in a predominantly Arab city. This was NOT a good idea when the most powerfull man in the world is a "born again Christian" who may very well believe he is carrying out
God's work.

The scuttlebut I am hearing is chilling. All 4 scenarios for the end game are horiffic. It has been 61 years since a nuclear bomb was used in war at an enemy target. Both Israel and the US are TIRED of taking casualties. This is exacly the positon the US took in 1945 re: predicted casualties in an ivasion of mainland Japan.


The "body count" reported in the news is 10% of what it actually is for the Arabs. My guess is Conde shows up on Yom Kippur to say Kadish for the Arab world.

Shocking ... unpleasant ... horrific ...

... but necessary.

How can I become part of that minyan? Have yarmulke ... will travel.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Shocking ... unpleasant ... horrific ...

... but necessary.

How can I become part of that minyan? Have yarmulke ... will travel.

You continue to follow the fool Dixie Porter as a puppy follows a child.

Dixie is, as always, wrong. Rice will be in the Middle East by early tomorrow... just as I predicted. She is not likely to be carrying any nuclear weapons but rather a list of tangible issues to speak to the Syrians about (through and with the Jordanians, Saudis and Egyptians, of course).

Along with those losing ther lives in Haifa, you should be praying for these Arab leaders for the guidance and wsdom they will use to bring this to its end.

Save the yarmulke for another day.

I am clearly on the side of Israel as demonstrated by many of my posts. I dont think they have done everything properly, but they are a moral democracy.

And I occasionally find myself on the side of someone such as the bold one. And I wonder what the hell, have a gotten completely wrong? Such shallow thinking. I need to go back and rethink this thing. Kinda like when the KKK backs Republicans, or animal rights groups let infected lab rats lose- vote Democratic... please dont back, we really dont want your vote.

Just want to be isolated from primitive thought patterns.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I am clearly on the side of Israel as demonstrated by many of my posts. I dont think they have done everything properly, but they are a moral democracy.

And I occasionally find myself on the side of someone such as the bold one. And I wonder what the hell, have a gotten completely wrong? Such shallow thinking. I need to go back and rethink this thing. Kinda like when the KKK backs Republicans, or animal rights groups let infected lab rats lose- vote Democratic... please dont back, we really dont want your vote.

Just want to be isolated from primitive thought patterns.

There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained!

[dalakhani]

[quote=somerfrost]There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained![/QUOTE]

This is about the funniest thing i have read on here. Its like you stopped just short of saying "anakin, only the sith deal in absolutes". lol

You think you stand to the left and use terms like "destroy", "evil" and even "terrorist" in the same mangled diatribe?

You seem to like cliches. How about this one: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Think about that for one second.

Think about all sides of the issue before you start spouting off about "balance to the universe" and try just for a second to understand why the universe is just so "unbalanced" right now.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Think about that for one second.

That's utter nonsense in this context.

The terrorists are in no way fighting for freedom ... they hate Jews and openly profess an obsessive desire to kill all of them. And they readily kill any of their co-religionists who disagree with their goals and methods.

On the other hand ... the members of the U.S. military have always been freedom fighters ... defeating brutal, murderous tyrannies and establishing free democracies in their place.

Think about that ... for many seconds.

[somerfrost]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained![/QUOTE]

This is about the funniest thing i have read on here. Its like you stopped just short of saying "anakin, only the sith deal in absolutes". lol

You think you stand to the left and use terms like "destroy", "evil" and even "terrorist" in the same mangled diatribe?

You seem to like cliches. How about this one: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Think about that for one second.

Think about all sides of the issue before you start spouting off about "balance to the universe" and try just for a second to understand why the universe is just so "unbalanced" right now.

I doubt that you are so advanced in your philosophy as to make fun of mine and I certainly don't have to present my credentials to someone I don't even know. I've lived my life by that which I believe and have never been bashful of presenting my opinions on any subject. A couple points...I KNOW that I am to the left of most here, I don't just think it. My thoughts were clearly stated, they were neither mangled or bitter, simply my point of view. You are welcome to your's but attempting to devalue mine is a poor substitute to presenting a retort based on whatever your opinion may be for debate. Also, my response was geared specifically to Pgardn, a poster that I know and respect and have had many discussions with in the past, not some lurker that I honestly don't know or care about. Your world view is apparently different than mine....cool! We can debate the merits of our ideology, but starting out with an attempt to lecture me from some perceived loft of intellectual superiority is well...a waste of your time!

[Danzig]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained![/QUOTE]

This is about the funniest thing i have read on here. Its like you stopped just short of saying "anakin, only the sith deal in absolutes". lol

You think you stand to the left and use terms like "destroy", "evil" and even "terrorist" in the same mangled diatribe?

You seem to like cliches. How about this one: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Think about that for one second.

Think about all sides of the issue before you start spouting off about "balance to the universe" and try just for a second to understand why the universe is just so "unbalanced" right now.

there are freedom fighters...people like those who founded this country for instance. funny thing tho about washington et al...they didn't blow up people in bus stops, cafes and the like...why, they actually fought against an army. not civilians... there were no suicide bombers. no hiding out in neighborhoods while they lobbed cannonballs. nope, fought out of forts. now that's a freedom fighter.
then there are people like gandhi and martin luther king jr. got what they wanted peacefully.
anyone who doesn't know what a terrorist is...well, i'm speechless if you can't tell the difference.

[Byebyemermaid]

We have family that live in Haifa and Tel-Aviv.One of the rockets that hit Haifa yesterday was about 1/3 of a mile from there apartment.When my wife saw the footage she immediately recognized the area.We got hold of them on the phone and asked how they were and they said fine and next asked about our family like nothing was going on.I don't thinkwe could ever be that casual about what is happening there if it was going on here.One of there sons who just had there second child has been recalled.The family that lives in Herzilia Petuach near Tel-Aviv has a son who is in special forces as a naval seal.His father was a Colonel in the army.the only thing i can say is if there is ever a quiet time there you must see that place.Jewish,Christian it doesen't matter.It's a remarkable place.

OK then I am dissappointed. I agree with someone who just does not think. Makes up his mind based on preconceived biases and never touches evidence that does not fit the mold. I cant stand these types. Disappointed...

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by pgardn

OK then I am dissappointed. I agree with someone who just does not think. Makes up his mind based on preconceived biases and never touches evidence that does not fit the mold. I cant stand these types. Disappointed...

My clothes are dirty but my hands are clean...words of Bob Dylan.
Don't judge a book by it's cover...I have no idea who first said that.
People who don't think can't possibly reach meaningful conclusions and BB reaches meaningful conclusions therefore...
Beware of snap judgement based on internet posts...70-80% of human communication is non-verbal, the net is 100% verbal (written).
The truth has many vehicles, there is the messenger and there is the message...we must never confuse them!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

OK then I am dissappointed. I agree with someone who just does not think. Makes up his mind based on preconceived biases and never touches evidence that does not fit the mold. I cant stand these types. Disappointed...

pgardn, I have a question for you. Do you feel it is possible for a person to use their own mind, absent of pre-conceived biases, considering many different viewpoints, and to then adopt the very same world-view as BB? Or are you implying that anyone that shares this same worldview does not think and simply parrots what other people say?