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Old 07-18-2006, 11:10 PM
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So, actually, that's two questions you haven't answered yet. When was Sullivan on staff at the NYTimes and what do you consider a "leftist?"
Two things define a leftist...

1. A leftist believes that government is the solver of economic and social problems ... and that it does so by confiscating and redistributing wealth ... which leftists assume is an existential substance ... not something which has to be created.

2. A leftist is someone who deludes herself ... and attempts to distract and bemuse others ... by obsessing over minutiae which are completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed ... and is always successful with the former ... and never successful with the latter.

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Old 07-19-2006, 07:29 AM
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"The first casualty of war is the truth", Ernest Hemmingway.

The situation here is grave. I believe the "if" no longer exists and rightfully should be replaced with "when" in regard to the bombing of TA.

Should the escaltion include more Syrian/Iranian troops and ordinance we shall be back in the same situation as 1973 (Yom Kippur War).

It is "well Known" that nuclear loaded aircraft were in the air waiting for a deploy order should the Arabs have crossed the Jordan back then. Fortunately or NOT the Arabs collapsed.

Dateline: Herzilya, Israel
Well, finally you are seeing some clarity.

It is so very disappointing to see the Israelis trying yet again to oppress the Lebanese into submission for the stated purpose of "stability" in southern Lebanon. I actually hope the UN, as well as a multi-nation peacekeeping force, takes the stability of Lebanon more serious this time. After all, the Israelis did this very same thing in 1982. And failed. And Israell did this very same thing in 2000. And, of course, Israel failed. Hopefully they will not fail yet again, though failure seems likely.

It probably will take some action against TelAviv to move public opinion in Israel that last needed step toward seeking peace.

It's been 25 years since Israel started the transformation of Beirut from being the "Paris of the Middle East" into looking like an ordinary TelAviv slum.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:11 PM
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Arabs bomb Nazareth (birthplace of JC) killing two children in a predominantly Arab city. This was NOT a good idea when the most powerfull man in the world is a "born again Christian" who may very well believe he is carrying out
God's work.

The scuttlebut I am hearing is chilling. All 4 scenarios for the end game are horiffic. It has been 61 years since a nuclear bomb was used in war at an enemy target. Both Israel and the US are TIRED of taking casualties. This is exacly the positon the US took in 1945 re: predicted casualties in an ivasion of mainland Japan.


The "body count" reported in the news is 10% of what it actually is for the Arabs. My guess is Conde shows up on Yom Kippur to say Kadish for the Arab world.

The time is limited for American Hating Arabs like yourself to be able to walk our streets in safety.

This situation wreaks of the "Wansee Conference", only this time it is the "final solution" to the Arab problem.
The "scuttlebut" you hear is the sound of your head scuttling further up your butt. You do not hear anything worth a sh1t. Really now.

What you're hoping for is just not going to happen. You're just an old man sitting in his chair watching CNN proclaiming to the world and pretending to yourself that you have Omert's ear. Uh huh.

And, of course, you're wrong. I'm not an America hater. Just hate the foolishness that you and other war-mongering oppresssors profess as the correct solution. Many, many billions of people see the world different than you. And you cannot accept that they may be right.

Israel blew the Lebanon issue in 1982 and again in 2000. I suppose that is also my fault? Israel, along with the U.S. have really f***rd up in Lebanon., leaving the fledgling democracy of Lebanon up for grabs. The U.S. had a war to lose and the Israelis needed to get back to those ever-scary, sling-shot toting Palestinians.

You just don't get it. Never will, probably never have. But knowledgeable, non-robotic people see this for what it is.

Again, the deal to be made is with the Syrians. And it will be made. Get used to it.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:55 PM
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Arabs bomb Nazareth (birthplace of JC) killing two children in a predominantly Arab city. This was NOT a good idea when the most powerfull man in the world is a "born again Christian" who may very well believe he is carrying out
God's work.

The scuttlebut I am hearing is chilling. All 4 scenarios for the end game are horiffic. It has been 61 years since a nuclear bomb was used in war at an enemy target. Both Israel and the US are TIRED of taking casualties. This is exacly the positon the US took in 1945 re: predicted casualties in an ivasion of mainland Japan.


The "body count" reported in the news is 10% of what it actually is for the Arabs. My guess is Conde shows up on Yom Kippur to say Kadish for the Arab world.
Shocking ... unpleasant ... horrific ...

... but necessary.

How can I become part of that minyan? Have yarmulke ... will travel.
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Old 07-19-2006, 02:10 PM
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Shocking ... unpleasant ... horrific ...

... but necessary.

How can I become part of that minyan? Have yarmulke ... will travel.
You continue to follow the fool Dixie Porter as a puppy follows a child.

Dixie is, as always, wrong. Rice will be in the Middle East by early tomorrow... just as I predicted. She is not likely to be carrying any nuclear weapons but rather a list of tangible issues to speak to the Syrians about (through and with the Jordanians, Saudis and Egyptians, of course).

Along with those losing ther lives in Haifa, you should be praying for these Arab leaders for the guidance and wsdom they will use to bring this to its end.

Save the yarmulke for another day.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:48 PM
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I am clearly on the side of Israel as demonstrated by many of my posts. I dont think they have done everything properly, but they are a moral democracy.

And I occasionally find myself on the side of someone such as the bold one. And I wonder what the hell, have a gotten completely wrong? Such shallow thinking. I need to go back and rethink this thing. Kinda like when the KKK backs Republicans, or animal rights groups let infected lab rats lose- vote Democratic... please dont back, we really dont want your vote.

Just want to be isolated from primitive thought patterns.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:58 PM
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I am clearly on the side of Israel as demonstrated by many of my posts. I dont think they have done everything properly, but they are a moral democracy.

And I occasionally find myself on the side of someone such as the bold one. And I wonder what the hell, have a gotten completely wrong? Such shallow thinking. I need to go back and rethink this thing. Kinda like when the KKK backs Republicans, or animal rights groups let infected lab rats lose- vote Democratic... please dont back, we really dont want your vote.

Just want to be isolated from primitive thought patterns.
There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained!
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:09 PM
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[quote=somerfrost]There aren't too many folks further to the left on this board than me...yet I support a lot of what BB says. Israel is a moral democracy and we MUST support her continued existence. Folks who commit acts of terrorism are terrorists and must be destroyed...not reasoned with or compromised with...destroyed! Evil exists and must be fought...we will never defeat evil but we can and must defeat those who do evil...sure, others will take their place and those that take ours must defeat them...there is a balance to all the universes and evil constantly attempts to destroy that balance...it must be maintained![/QUOTE]

This is about the funniest thing i have read on here. Its like you stopped just short of saying "anakin, only the sith deal in absolutes". lol

You think you stand to the left and use terms like "destroy", "evil" and even "terrorist" in the same mangled diatribe?

You seem to like cliches. How about this one: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Think about that for one second.

Think about all sides of the issue before you start spouting off about "balance to the universe" and try just for a second to understand why the universe is just so "unbalanced" right now.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:03 PM
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We have family that live in Haifa and Tel-Aviv.One of the rockets that hit Haifa yesterday was about 1/3 of a mile from there apartment.When my wife saw the footage she immediately recognized the area.We got hold of them on the phone and asked how they were and they said fine and next asked about our family like nothing was going on.I don't thinkwe could ever be that casual about what is happening there if it was going on here.One of there sons who just had there second child has been recalled.The family that lives in Herzilia Petuach near Tel-Aviv has a son who is in special forces as a naval seal.His father was a Colonel in the army.the only thing i can say is if there is ever a quiet time there you must see that place.Jewish,Christian it doesen't matter.It's a remarkable place.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:13 PM
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OK then I am dissappointed. I agree with someone who just does not think. Makes up his mind based on preconceived biases and never touches evidence that does not fit the mold. I cant stand these types. Disappointed...
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:50 AM
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The situation here is grave. I believe the "if" no longer exists and rightfully should be replaced with "when" in regard to the bombing of TA.

Should the escaltion include more Syrian/Iranian troops and ordinance we shall be back in the same situation as 1973 (Yom Kippur War).

It is "well Known" that nuclear loaded aircraft were in the air waiting for a deploy order should the Arabs have crossed the Jordan back then. Fortunately or NOT the Arabs collapsed.

Dateline: Herzilya, Israel
My first reaction was "No ... not even the Syrians and Palestinians could be that dumb!" ... but ...

... then I realized that the strings are being pulled by Persians from 1,000 miles away ... and they could care less what happens to the Arabs ... so ...

... yeah, you're right ... the idea of the Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians being used ... once again ... as cannon fodder is hardly far-fetched.
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:52 AM
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My first reaction was "No ... not even the Syrians and Palestinians could be that dumb!" ... but ...

... then I realized that the strings are being pulled by Persians from 1,000 miles away ... and they could care less what happens to the Arabs ... so ...

... yeah, you're right ... the idea of the Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians being used ... once again ... as cannon fodder is hardly far-fetched.
First you sound as moronic as ever. And, without knowing it, you've stumbled (finally) in the right direction without knowing it.

The Israeli "End-Game" here will be to play nice with the Syrians. Always has been. As you know, Syria is calling the shots here.
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