9/30: JCGC; Vos; Beldame; JHTC

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by GPK

That last race is a complete tossout. How do you all of a sudden try to rate a horse 9-10 lengths off the lead, in a Grade 1 race, when his success from stalking just off the pacesitter speaks for itself. I still disagree with the posted fractions of that race as well. No way, IMO, they went that fast for the first 6 panels.

Huh? He got a perfect trip and got swallowed up.

What are you saying....unless he gets the most perfect trips possible he's barely competitive?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Huh? He got a perfect trip and got swallowed up.

What are you saying....unless he gets the most perfect trips possible he's barely competitive?

Taking a horse out of his preferred, and highly succesful, running style qualifies as a perfect trip?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by GPK

Taking a horse out of his preferred, and highly succesful, running style qualifies as a perfect trip?

Stalking slow paces is hardly a better trip than being slightly farther back against impossibly fast paces. All the pace did in the Sword Dancer was give the deeper closers a fairer chance than they usually have against English Channel. It didn't hurt him....it just helped another. He still ran his usual mediocre race.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Stalking slow paces is hardly a better trip than being slightly farther back against impossibly fast paces. All the pace did in the Sword Dancer was give the deeper closers a fairer chance than they usually have against English Channel. It didn't hurt him....it just helped another. He still ran his usual mediocre race.

again...I have a hard time believing the posted fractions in the Sword Dancer are correct.