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09-27-2007, 04:27 PM
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I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses. 
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09-27-2007, 04:32 PM
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He's just not what he used to be.
And what he used to be was good enough to score wins against competition that was more often than not less than stellar for the class level. He's a fine racehorse and has certainly given good accounts of himself for most of his career, but I'm hard pressed off the top of my head to think of a time when he ran into a top-level racehorse without wilting.
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09-27-2007, 04:44 PM
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I think English Channel's last race will look much better on sheet-figures than it will look any other way.
He gave the winner six pounds at 12 furlongs - which I believe is like 2.9 lengths in weight on the sheets. And the winner, got a great ground saving ride from Calvin Borel, while EC was a little bit wide as I recall. I'm positive EC came away with the better figure - even though he was beaten by 3 lengths...which is a large margin of victory in a turf race. I don't think EC is as good as he once was either - but he was beat by a dream-trip winner as I remember, and weight shifts like that can mean a little something in turf marathons. Look at how 3yo's tend to dominate olders in the Arc. Even if you excuse the loss in the Sword Dancer - his win in the UN came with a dream trip, and his Manhatten effort was blah.
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09-29-2007, 01:03 PM
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09-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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09-27-2007, 04:35 PM
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09-27-2007, 05:00 PM
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09-27-2007, 11:52 PM
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Perfect Drift is a warrior. He runs his guts out every time the gate opens. One has to respect that trait.
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09-27-2007, 04:35 PM
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Im reaching Drugs, I know...throw me a bone here, will ya?
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09-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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Another horse to pile onto the piece of crap pile. Goes by the name of Discreet Cat.
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09-30-2007, 04:21 PM
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These horses that never run
Are always overrated. He did nothing and even if he did, big deal! I think a horse should have to run a minimum of 5 or 6 races to even be considered horse of the year or divisional leader, they have minimums in baseball for the batting title and era title.
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09-30-2007, 04:29 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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09-30-2007, 05:52 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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09-30-2007, 06:06 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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10-01-2007, 02:29 PM
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