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Old 09-25-2007, 01:57 AM
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In reality LSU and Oklahoma are the only teams that have beaten competition worth a damn.

But Ohio St. and USC look very solid all the way through. Ohio State has a very good defense so they can stay with anyone just like LSU, even on a bad day.

We shall see. Injuries, offensive lines getting into a groove could change everything quickly.
Who has Oklahoma beaten that Florida hasnt beaten? Tennesee is better than Miami this year.

Florida is right up there with any team and they are the defending champs. No florida fan but give respect.

I do think LSU and USC will be the two teams when the smoke clears.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:27 PM
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Who has Oklahoma beaten that Florida hasnt beaten? Tennesee is better than Miami this year.

Florida is right up there with any team and they are the defending champs. No florida fan but give respect.

I do think LSU and USC will be the two teams when the smoke clears.
lsu and usc have the most talent and deep rosters full of speed and players that will be playing on sundays soon.
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:45 AM
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lsu and usc have the most talent and deep rosters full of speed and players that will be playing on sundays soon.





Maybe they'll do better there.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:47 PM
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BCS Standings
1. Ohio State
2. South Florida
3. Boston College
4. LSU
5. Oklahoma
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Arizona State
9. West Virginia
10. Oregon
11. Virginia Tech
12. California
13. Kansas
14. USC
15. Florida
16. Missouri
17. Auburn
18. Hawaii
19. Virginia
20. Georgia
21. Tennessee
22. Texas
23. Cincinnati
24. Texas Tech
25. Michigan

The most over-rated:

Boston College
Arizona State
Kansas
Hawaii
Texas Tech

It should be noted that the vile Steve Spurrier
has done an incredible job at S. Carolina.

The best team is still LSU. When they get
the Early one back, and if they can get to the BCS
championship game, they will win. Ohio State is still
not respected by many but I think their Defense warrants
consideration of being very worthy to beat any team. I
think if Sweater-Vest man blings up, his charges would not be
the object of ridicule. A big gold chain medallion from Maurice Clarret
would boost morale and respect considerably.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:47 PM
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1 OHIO STATE

The rest of the junk
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:52 PM
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1 OHIO STATE

The rest of the junk
LOL

I feel like this is Deja Vu from last year at this time.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:03 AM
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LOL

I feel like this is Deja Vu from last year at this time.
Reminding me alot more of 2002. Started out middle-of-the-pack, worked their way up on solid defense, and finished up big over a FLA team.

That year ended up well, and this one could too. The offense is decent, but the defense is great. I am just as doubtful of the #1 ranking as any anyone else, but if they can run the table over 5 teams with winning records, then the Buckeyes deserve a chance in the title game, and if they don't, then they didn't deserve it.

But, I would rather not go than lose 41-14 again...
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1 OHIO STATE

The rest of the junk
And as we have seen.....the junk is legion.






Their fans mix truths with lies.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:39 AM
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The rest of the junk
You must be referring to OSU's schedule....
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south florida, all of 11 years of football. amazing to see them where they are! shame tho that osu got ahead of them in the polls. out of the top three, they would be my vote for #1. then bc, then osu.

but no one asked me.
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Well, I'm absolutely convinced now. South Florida was unquestionably deserving of the #2 ranking in the country. What a joke.
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Well, I'm absolutely convinced now. South Florida was unquestionably deserving of the #2 ranking in the country. What a joke.
Party is over, beeeoootchesssss.....
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:38 AM
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Party is over, beeeoootchesssss.....
It was a fun party though....
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Well, I'm absolutely convinced now. South Florida was unquestionably deserving of the #2 ranking in the country. What a joke.
Yes, they were absolutely deserving. Were they the second best team...I don't think so...but the facts remain they had beaten Auburn on the road and West Virginia. Again, an Auburn team Forida couldn't beat and LSU beat on the last play of the game. I said long ago I thought both Rutgers and Cincinnati could possibly beat them...but until that happened they certainly deserved their ranking. Now that that has happened they are where they should be now.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:16 AM
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my top 10

1.Ohio State on the basis of being undefeated
2.LSU--i hate to admit it probably the best team right now
3.Arizona State--til they lose to USC they stay here
4.Oregon--til they lose to USC they merit being here
5.USC--rolling over ND was a positive sign, hoping they roll over the pac-10 and move on to the BCS title game
6.Oklahoma---surprising team so far, just wondering how much longer it will last
7.Kentucky---if it were not for their loss, id have them as the #1 team in the nation.
8.Florida--playing very well considering the tough teams they face, can beat any team in nation, but it seems like they can also be beat just as easily by any other ranked team
9.VA Tech---just had to fill this spot
10.Auburn--2 losses I know but they could of beat LSU, and they are a very capable team, only tough team they might have left will be Georgia
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:20 PM
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Yes, they were absolutely deserving. Were they the second best team...I don't think so...but the facts remain they had beaten Auburn on the road and West Virginia. Again, an Auburn team Forida couldn't beat and LSU beat on the last play of the game. I said long ago I thought both Rutgers and Cincinnati could possibly beat them...but until that happened they certainly deserved their ranking. Now that that has happened they are where they should be now.
We will just have to disagree on how teams should be ranked. I don't want to see all of the unbeatens up there simply because they haven't lost. If I had a ballot, I would rank them according to how good I thought each team was, regardless of record. To me, voting South Florida as the second best team when I don't think they are anywhere close to that is as silly as voting Karl Malone the MVP award but acknowledging he's not as good as Michael Jordan. If, for example, going in, I have them ranked:

1-LSU
2-Florida
3-South Florida

and then Florida loses on the road to LSU on a last minute touchdown while South Florida is out beating Central Florida, SF would not move up over Florida. The way the polls do it is stupid, IMO.
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Who has Oklahoma beaten that Florida hasnt beaten? Tennesee is better than Miami this year.

Florida is right up there with any team and they are the defending champs. No florida fan but give respect.

I do think LSU and USC will be the two teams when the smoke clears.
Clearing a lot sooner than you thought.



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South Florida wasn't even in the polls till what, three weeks ago or so? Now they are the #5 team in the country? I don't buy that. I know how the rankings go when a team loses, they move down and all another team has to do is not lose, no matter who they are playing. But there is just no way in the world that I'll believe South Florida is the fifth best team in the nation right now. They'd be huge underdogs playing Oklahoma, USC, or Florida. Again, understanding how rankings go, sometimes, common sense has to come into play. Florida, yeah they lost but come on. They lost AT LSU, in the final minutes of the game. A quality loss like that shouldn't move a team down. If they hold LSU on one of those fourth down plays, right now Cal is #1 and Florida would be ahead of LSU. Am I to believe that one play is the difference between LSU being 12 spots ahead of Florida and Florida being ahead of LSU? USC, if that receiver doesn't make that great catch for Stanford in the end zone, is still ranked in the top three but one play dropped them down to #10.
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South Florida wasn't even in the polls till what, three weeks ago or so? Now they are the #5 team in the country? I don't buy that. I know how the rankings go when a team loses, they move down and all another team has to do is not lose, no matter who they are playing. But there is just no way in the world that I'll believe South Florida is the fifth best team in the nation right now. They'd be huge underdogs playing Oklahoma, USC, or Florida. Again, understanding how rankings go, sometimes, common sense has to come into play. Florida, yeah they lost but come on. They lost AT LSU, in the final minutes of the game. A quality loss like that shouldn't move a team down. If they hold LSU on one of those fourth down plays, right now Cal is #1 and Florida would be ahead of LSU. Am I to believe that one play is the difference between LSU being 12 spots ahead of Florida and Florida being ahead of LSU? USC, if that receiver doesn't make that great catch for Stanford in the end zone, is still ranked in the top three but one play dropped them down to #10.
Obviously you don't watch college football. Might be best if you refrain from commenting on it in order to avoid looking like a complete buffoon.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:31 AM
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Obviously you don't watch college football. Might be best if you refrain from commenting on it in order to avoid looking like a complete buffoon.
Brilliant. Which part, may I ask do u disagree with?

-Do u believe South Florida is really the fifth best team in the country?

-Would u take SF over Florida, USC, or Oklahoma?

-If LSU would have been stopped on that last 4th and 1 and Florida wins the game, do u not believe that Florida would be ranked ahead of LSU today?

-Do u believe that LSU is really 12 spots better than Florida?

-Do u believe that USC would have fallen out of the top three if they had won the game?
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