'Rags' with hairline fracture; '08 possible

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just can't get over how flawed your so-called " analysis " of this situation is. First of all, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Charismatic didn't win the Belmont....Lemon Drop Kid did. Care to give us the details of the rest of his career. But aside from that, singling out the winner of the race, while ignoring the accomplishments of those that finished behind him ( or her ) is beyond preposterous. But hey, let's throw a few out there....You mention Risen Star, well feel free to discuss Winning Colors's performances against Personal Ensign that Fall. Hansel? Strike the Gold, who finished a neck behind him, was a Grade 1 winner at 4. Thunder Gulch won the Swaps and Travers before breaking his leg in the Woodward. I suppose that break was waiting in the wings after the Belmont but failed to stop him in the two prior efforts? Point Given won the Haskell and Travers. What exactly did the Belmont have to do with his subsequent injury? Bluegrass Cat, who finished behind Jazil, won the Haskell and was second in the Travers. Sunriver, who finished third, has been extremely good on the turf at 4.

While we're on it, what were the negative effects of the Belmont on Easy Goer? He won four more Grade 1s that year. Sunday Silence, who finished second, beat him in the BC Classic. AP Indy won the Belmont....and the BC Classic. Skip Away finished second in the Belmont.....he beat Cigar in the Woodward the following September. I am a little unclear about the rest of his career. Perhaps you can remind me. Unshaded was third in the 2000 Belmont.....he won the Travers. Ten Most Wanted was second......he won the Travers.

Sounds to me like trainers should be falling all over themselves to compete in the Belmont if they want to have a successful future with their charges. At the very least there is a stronger argument for that point than suggesting that running in the Belmont is some sort of mistake.

Not to mention Birdstone won the Travers after the Belmont (with no prep, retired sound).

I forgot about Skip Away's Belmont, since he ran so poorly in the Derby... I always think of his elder accomplishments (of which there were many, obviously). It was the JCGC in which he beat Cigar, by the way

[letswastemoney]

Does anyone think there's a possibility that Rags is not injured and that they are just sore losers that don't want to blemish her record by risking losing the Distaff??

I'm not saying I think that's what happened because I believe she's really injured, but that entered the back of my head.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Does anyone think there's a possibility that Rags is not injured and that they are just sore losers that don't want to blemish her record by risking losing the Distaff??

I'm not saying I think that's what happened because I believe she's really injured, but that entered the back of my head.

Probably not, but that theory isn't as far fetched a some might think ... Blemishing this filly's record and pampering her in her works wre always Pletcher's m o here .... So backing away from a potential loss with a real, imagined, or exagerrated injury is somewhat congruent to that thinking. I don't buy the sore losers' image, but I might suggest " protecting " HER image . Not so far fetched .

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Does anyone think there's a possibility that Rags is not injured and that they are just sore losers that don't want to blemish her record by risking losing the Distaff??

I'm not saying I think that's what happened because I believe she's really injured, but that entered the back of my head.

I don't think they're sore losers, just pussies.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I don't think they're sore losers, just pussies.

YEP, corporate pussies ...