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Old 09-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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I suppose in order to make an assertion that Tiz Wonderful's connections should be ashamed of themselves one has to assume that Steve Asmussen knowingly put Tiz Wonderful on the track when injured. I am no great Steve Asmussen fan, but is it possible to have that knowledge as just a racing fan?

I'd say no, especially given that Tiz Wonderful's supposed injury happened after the running of the More Than Ready today. We've gone over Tiz Wonderful's performance in the Jim Dandy, so there's no need doing that again. However, today he did not run a bad race at all. He lost to a horse who was definitely improving a bit more than I anticipated, but it's not like Tiz Wonderful disgraced himself.

I'm wondering how much the collective feelings on this board about the whole Tiz Wonderful situation has to do with Asmussen himself and his checkered past. While Asmussen's horrendous record in terms of drug positives and suspensions is indefensible, I just don't see how he can be blamed or should feel ashamed for the way he handled Tiz Wonderful.

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Old 09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
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I just don't see how he can be blamed or should feel ashamed for the way he handled Tiz Wonderful.

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i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:28 PM
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no way am i surprised at this turn of events. as for assmussens 'past' i'd say it's his present as well. he finished serving his six month suspension earlier this year, not as tho it's ancient history.
as for Tiz W, he should have been brought back slowly, i thought this from the moment he made his comeback vs the top 3 yo colt in the country. what happened to taking it easy, to bringing a horse back a step at a time? we all know that it's a dicey proposition bringing a horse back from an injury, and that too often the horse isn't quite the same. so why the mad rush to put him right back in top company? what happened to building slowly, regaining confidence along with a fitness level and mental edge?? i wouldn't hire assmussen to housebreak a dog or litterbox train a cat. absolutely disgraceful!
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:29 PM
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i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?
you have a magic eight-ball too?!
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:35 AM
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you have a magic eight-ball too?!
in the spirit of the game, i use a ouijia board.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:38 AM
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in all fairness to ezw, he was ridden by the king of all moron jockies, david flores.

i cant say he was going to win, but i have no idea why he just sat still on him almost the entire way around the track. truly weird.

then again, i only saw the race on youbet. i'll have to watch it again on CR.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:45 AM
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it looks like your god has abandoned you.
Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:58 AM
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Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..
oh brother. is that the best retort you have for me, threatening me with violence?

let's see here. you start off stuff with me by talking crap, you and i team up to embarrass you, my posts were all right on the money, and you come back with threats?

hey, maybe you and chevy chase can kick my ass!!

shoot man, now i won't be able to sleep for days, knowing you are out there gunning for me.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:11 AM
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Just keep popping off and living behind your computer you jack ass..
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:56 AM
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Translation: I was wrong and you were right, but I cannot admit it, because it would tarnish my internet image.
well, anyone who would invoke the almighty for a horse to win...let's just say i'd rather bother the old man for something like world peace. but that's just me!
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:34 PM
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Translation: I was wrong and you were right, but I cannot admit it, because it would tarnish my internet image.
um.. where exactly was I wrong smart guy??

I said I HOPE he wins.. don't believe I ever once said he was going to.

I did just fine at the window on that race so all of the rest is irrelevant.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:54 AM
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Nothing like a good old fashioned redboard to stop a thread in its tracks.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:11 AM
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EZ can't breath, (possibly genetic problem?). They just want to get through this year before he goes to stud.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:15 PM
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EZ can't breath, (possibly genetic problem?). They just want to get through this year before he goes to stud.
To pollute the breed further
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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DAHOSS Your insinuation that Tiz Wonderful's connections were trying to "squeeze another race out of a hurt horse" is pure prattle and not worth discussing.

I would however be interested in your clairvoyant stance that he would not make the Breeders cup or any other future stakes race. BBB
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:37 PM
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clairvoyant
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/clairvoyant%20

For everyone else that has no idea what the word means.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:39 PM
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DAHOSS Your insinuation that Tiz Wonderful's connections were trying to "squeeze another race out of a hurt horse" is pure prattle and not worth discussing.

I would however be interested in your clairvoyant stance that he would not make the Breeders cup or any other future stakes race. BBB
i think it's worth discussing.

Are you saying that trainers would never do something like squeezing another race out of a horse, or are you saying you know asmussen would never do that?
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:40 PM
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DAHOSS Your insinuation that Tiz Wonderful's connections were trying to "squeeze another race out of a hurt horse" is pure prattle and not worth discussing.

I would however be interested in your clairvoyant stance that he would not make the Breeders cup or any other future stakes race. BBB
At least you have momentarily ceased referring to yourself in the third person.

There is always something for which to be thankful.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:10 PM
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DAHOSS Your insinuation that Tiz Wonderful's connections were trying to "squeeze another race out of a hurt horse" is pure prattle and not worth discussing.

I would however be interested in your clairvoyant stance that he would not make the Breeders cup or any other future stakes race. BBB
yet you couldn't resist discussing it.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:52 PM
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In between cutting out shapes in your extra thick construction paper and shopping for various color markers.
I want to say I love you for that, but that would be incredibly gay of me.

So, lol will have to suffice.
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