COMEBACK! Herbie McCauley at 50..

[blackthroatedwind]

My concern is for bettors, and I am extremely dubious about what benefit the return of this mediocre ( at best ) rider will have for horseplayers. If the other riders are comfortable riding with him that is not my problem. As a bettor I see his return as a negative.

What personal issues he had, or has, are of no concern to me whatsoever. Should they be?

Seems like a lot of morality lecturing going on here instead of the real issue being debated. The real issue is a jockey that was professionally washed up a virtual decade ago is now returning to affect the outcome of races where hundreds of thousands of dollars are wagered. Oh well, so much for any concern for the welfare of the bettors. I'm sure all his poor rides or lack of effort will be figments of disgruntled bettors' minds. God forbid there is any onus of responsibility on these brave men who risk their lives for our enjoyment.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

My concern is for bettors, and I am extremely dubious about what benefit the return of this mediocre ( at best ) rider will have for horseplayers. If the other riders are comfortable riding with him that is not my problem. As a bettor I see his return as a negative.

What personal issues he had, or has, are of no concern to me whatsoever. Should they be?

Seems like a lot of morality lecturing going on here instead of the real issue being debated. The real issue is a jockey that was professionally washed up a virtual decade ago is now returning to affect the outcome of races where hundreds of thousands of dollars are wagered. Oh well, so much for any concern for the welfare of the bettors. I'm sure all his poor rides or lack of effort will be figments of disgruntled bettors' minds. God forbid there is any onus of responsibility on these brave men who risk their lives for our enjoyment.

Hopefully the more stories are published about him and the more his overall exposure grows, the more uninformed money will be bet on horses he's riding.
I suppose that's a possibility even despite the size of the following of the Big M.

NT

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

My concern is for bettors, and I am extremely dubious about what benefit the return of this mediocre ( at best ) rider will have for horseplayers. If the other riders are comfortable riding with him that is not my problem. As a bettor I see his return as a negative.

What personal issues he had, or has, are of no concern to me whatsoever. Should they be?

Seems like a lot of morality lecturing going on here instead of the real issue being debated. The real issue is a jockey that was professionally washed up a virtual decade ago is now returning to affect the outcome of races where hundreds of thousands of dollars are wagered. Oh well, so much for any concern for the welfare of the bettors. I'm sure all his poor rides or lack of effort will be figments of disgruntled bettors' minds. God forbid there is any onus of responsibility on these brave men who risk their lives for our enjoyment.

one of the great posts of all time! what does overcoming adversity have anything to do with his ability in riding horses?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

one of the great posts of all time! what does overcoming adversity have anything to do with his ability in riding horses?

How bad was he? He rode 20 years and won 3,000+ races. He was mediocre enough to once win five races on a card from five mounts.

[10 pnt move up]

So he had/has a gambling problem? Is that a good thing for a rider?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

My concern is for bettors, and I am extremely dubious about what benefit the return of this mediocre ( at best ) rider will have for horseplayers. If the other riders are comfortable riding with him that is not my problem. As a bettor I see his return as a negative.

What personal issues he had, or has, are of no concern to me whatsoever. Should they be?

Seems like a lot of morality lecturing going on here instead of the real issue being debated. The real issue is a jockey that was professionally washed up a virtual decade ago is now returning to affect the outcome of races where hundreds of thousands of dollars are wagered. Oh well, so much for any concern for the welfare of the bettors. I'm sure all his poor rides or lack of effort will be figments of disgruntled bettors' minds. God forbid there is any onus of responsibility on these brave men who risk their lives for our enjoyment.

Andy makes a compelling counterpoint here.. I'll only say that it's the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority's decision to let a Herb McCauley ride, just as the NYRA stewards had to make a similar call to grant David Jacobson a trainers' license after being away from the game for 25 years.

Simply put, McCauley's current riding ability will determine the outcome of this story.. I think bettor's should give him the same chance that Goldberg or other trainers' are giving him..

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Andy makes a compelling counterpoint here.. I'll only say that it's the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority's decision to let a Herb McCauley ride, just as the NYRA stewards had to make a similar call to grant David Jacobson a trainers' license after being away from the game for 25 years.

Simply put, McCauley's current riding ability will determine the outcome of this story.. I think bettor's should give him the same chance that Goldberg or other trainers' are giving him..

How does him riding affect the bettors any more than any jockey you might perceive is less than capable? You could say a sophisticated bettor would benefit from him riding just as easily. I guess I can see the point but it's unlikely he's going to put other riders in danger or greatly affect the outcome of a race other than the horse he's riding (like some other not so capable riders do). He does know his way around the track.

[MisterB]

How many mounts can this guy get anyway. They have the best jocks riding the best horses, so most trainers will not change that anyway. He is the Chop Chop of NJ shore now. He most likely will sit in the jocks room waitng for a sudden call to post.

In this game, 50 is retirement age.