DEE TEE: Sciacca joins; Will train NY-Bred..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by santana

Mr Sciacca certainly isnt one of the top trainers in the NY area.
Although i coudnt tell you his percentage for the year, i am pretty sure it i dismal...
Maybe his day rate is cheaper than the rest of the better trainers ?

Normally I wouldn't respond to this or your snide answer to Cajun further in the thread, but I will say a couple of things... What is 'dismal' is the ignorance associated with the spouting of 'win percentage' as a measure of a trainers' 'ability' or 'qualifications'. It is the most laughable and amateurish stat quoted by anyone attempting to diminish the stature or prowess of a horseman, and demonstrates in its' employment only a total lack of comprehension of the game as it is exists right now.

And since we aren't charged a day rate by Chuck or Gary, that shows yet further lack of understanding of what Dee Tee is doing with our partnership. One of the most important aspects of our project is the desire to demonstrate that horsemanship is available to owners beyond Pletcher and Asmussen and the sundry other mega-stables currently en route to destroying the game.

Gary Sciacca bought Subordination for Seth Klarman (Klaravich) for $95,000 and won more than $1,200,000 with him and multiple Gr. I's. What has one of those other alleged 'superior NY horseman' done with the millions upon millions he's spent of Klaravich's money? You clearly have no idea what drives a trainer's career and makes him 'high percentage' at any one time or 'low percentage' at another. So while you're free to spout an unenlightened 'opinion' here, be aware that most will see right through it.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Normally I wouldn't respond to this or your snide answer to Cajun further in the thread, but I will say a couple of things... What is 'dismal' is the ignorance associated with the spouting of 'win percentage' as a measure of a trainers' 'ability' or 'qualifications'. It is the most laughable and amateurish stat quoted by anyone attempting to diminish the stature or prowess of a horseman, and demonstrates in its' employment only a total lack of comprehension of the game as it is exists right now.

And since we aren't charged a day rate by Chuck or Gary, that shows yet further lack of understanding of what Dee Tee is doing with our partnership. One of the most important aspects of our project is the desire to demonstrate that horsemanship is available to owners beyond Pletcher and Asmussen and the sundry other mega-stables currently en route to destroying the game.

Gary Sciacca bought Subordination for Seth Klarman (Klaravich) for $95,000 and won more than $1,200,000 with him and multiple Gr. I's. What has one of those other alleged 'superior NY horseman' done with the millions upon millions he's spent of Klaravich's money? You clearly have no idea what drives a trainer's career and makes him 'high percentage' at any one time or 'low percentage' at another. So while you're free to spout an unenlightened 'opinion' here, be aware that most will see right through it.

Go get em' Steve......Great reply.

I echo trifecta's sentiments.



I echo tri...ehh

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I echo trifecta's sentiments.



I echo tri...ehh

What Steve said was so eloquent I had to congratulate him twice

[robfla]

what some "high percentage" trainer's stats wont tell you is that they paid $600,000 for a horse ran him 6 times in two years, won 3 times.. thats 50%...

BUT what about the thousands to feed and vet the horse and the owner might be lucky to recover $100,000 in purses... still they are "batting 50%", but lost $525,000 on their client's horse.

For some high profile barns the win % # is a skewed number. Sure the trainer is making money, but is the client?