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Old 09-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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Did you get the coffee mug?

I mailed one to the address you provided me but you never acknowledged receipt of the BHE mug.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:18 PM
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I mailed one to the address you provided me but you never acknowledged receipt of the BHE mug.
I'm heading to the apartment tomorrow. I'll let you know if I got it.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:26 PM
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I'm heading to the apartment tomorrow. I'll let you know if I got it.
I mailed it like a month ago (maybe longer) have you been away that long?
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:53 PM
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I mailed it like a month ago (maybe longer) have you been away that long?
Yeah that's my home away from home. The ghetto fabulous pad.
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:40 PM
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Steve i wish you and all your partners a lot of luck in your Dee Tee stable ventures. I didnt make my Gary Sciacca comments because i dislike the guy, but more as a reality check for your partners, I really hope that any of those partners dont invest if they cant afford it. I am sure i have been watching this game for more yrs than you Steve. Knowing plenty of people that have owned and raced in the NY area. People that had a few with guys like A Jerkens and Laz Barrera and a few other of the top ones.
I know you wanna have fun with the partnership, and its all about taking a shot. And yes, i know alot of the angles of owning horses....
Getting a horse to the races, and earning money in the partnership is a huge longshot. I hope you find a huge money earner, but the odds are you wont...
Of the atleast 8 people i have known over the yrs that owned, and with those top trainers running the show......only one guy earned any money.....
With a stable of 10 horses...one horse carried the stable.
So while i wish you luck, hopefully these people that invest...CAN AFFORD to lose the money they more than likely to lose.
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:44 PM
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Steve i wish you and all your partners a lot of luck in your Dee Tee stable ventures. I didnt make my Gary Sciacca comments because i dislike the guy, but more as a reality check for your partners, I really hope that any of those partners dont invest if they cant afford it. I am sure i have been watching this game for more yrs than you Steve. Knowing plenty of people that have owned and raced in the NY area. People that had a few with guys like A Jerkens and Laz Barrera and a few other of the top ones.
I know you wanna have fun with the partnership, and its all about taking a shot. And yes, i know alot of the angles of owning horses....
Getting a horse to the races, and earning money in the partnership is a huge longshot. I hope you find a huge money earner, but the odds are you wont...
Of the atleast 8 people i have known over the yrs that owned, and with those top trainers running the show......only one guy earned any money.....
With a stable of 10 horses...one horse carried the stable.
So while i wish you luck, hopefully these people that invest...CAN AFFORD to lose the money they more than likely to lose.
No one is investing in this to make money. We are in it to have fun and be able to have the experience of owning a horse. This isn't your traditional partnership. We put in $500 up front and never have to pay another expense the rest of the way, all expenses are paid for by the trainer. I don't think that is going to bankrupt anyone.
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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Now here is the real question, Can Sciacca type and how fast will it take for him to become an internet legend?
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:58 PM
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I wish all the partners all the best. While making money, making the races, etc., is never a guarantee, I am sure what is guaranteed here is having fun -- and boy can you have fun with Gary.

The people who are involved and who are putting forth their time, efforts, money and everything else should and will enjoy themselves. This truly is the "greatest game" -- and they should not spend one second of time jutifying anything to anybody; especially the people who are doing nothing more than being a source of negativity.

Enjoy and best of luck!!!

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Old 09-09-2007, 11:08 PM
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Steve is busy writing the 2nd bible right now on this thread, been like 20 minutes, probably full of words I won't understand
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:30 AM
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No one is investing in this to make money. We are in it to have fun and be able to have the experience of owning a horse. This isn't your traditional partnership. We put in $500 up front and never have to pay another expense the rest of the way, all expenses are paid for by the trainer. I don't think that is going to bankrupt anyone.
Unfortunately, a lot of "blockheads" that post here don't understand this. It's a simple small investment that has reap rewards money can't buy. This year's Spa meet was extra special; meeting the members, making new friends and seeing a horse you part own run two times at Saratoga. A simple $500 investment bought that!
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:53 AM
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Great news regarding NYB!!!

I drive from LI to Queens/Brooklyn everyday. Any excuse to get to Belmont and Big A more often is good for me...

Looking forward to it!
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:37 AM
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Unfortunately, a lot of "blockheads" that post here don't understand this. It's a simple small investment that has reap rewards money can't buy. This year's Spa meet was extra special; meeting the members, making new friends and seeing a horse you part own run two times at Saratoga. A simple $500 investment bought that!
Yes,Yes.There's more going on here than anyone thinking there's a large pot of gold to be captured but if you don't chase the rainbows you may never find it.For my wife & I this is as much a social activity as my college football season tickets,the preferred parking as well as the social interaction & "Donations" made are far more expensive than this venture but you can't put a price tag on great fun,friends,entertainment & dreams.Someday my college team my make a BCS bowl game & SWLY will win a graded stake, but I'm also a realist that enjoys good friends & fun times. 1 SHARE SWLY $500, MONEY WON TRAVELING & FOLLOWING SWLY BY WAGERING ON HER & OTHER RACES OF THE WEEKEND $3200 & SEEING STEVE DRESS UP LIKE DICK TRACY---PRICELESS
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:22 AM
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Yes,Yes.There's more going on here than anyone thinking there's a large pot of gold to be captured but if you don't chase the rainbows you may never find it.For my wife & I this is as much a social activity as my college football season tickets,the preferred parking as well as the social interaction & "Donations" made are far more expensive than this venture but you can't put a price tag on great fun,friends,entertainment & dreams.Someday my college team my make a BCS bowl game & SWLY will win a graded stake, but I'm also a realist that enjoys good friends & fun times. 1 SHARE SWLY $500, MONEY WON TRAVELING & FOLLOWING SWLY BY WAGERING ON HER & OTHER RACES OF THE WEEKEND $3200 & SEEING STEVE DRESS UP LIKE DICK TRACY---PRICELESS
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:12 PM
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Steve i wish you and all your partners a lot of luck in your Dee Tee stable ventures. I didnt make my Gary Sciacca comments because i dislike the guy, but more as a reality check for your partners, I really hope that any of those partners dont invest if they cant afford it. I am sure i have been watching this game for more yrs than you Steve. Knowing plenty of people that have owned and raced in the NY area. People that had a few with guys like A Jerkens and Laz Barrera and a few other of the top ones.
I know you wanna have fun with the partnership, and its all about taking a shot. And yes, i know alot of the angles of owning horses....
Getting a horse to the races, and earning money in the partnership is a huge longshot. I hope you find a huge money earner, but the odds are you wont...
Of the atleast 8 people i have known over the yrs that owned, and with those top trainers running the show......only one guy earned any money.....
With a stable of 10 horses...one horse carried the stable.
So while i wish you luck, hopefully these people that invest...CAN AFFORD to lose the money they more than likely to lose.
Appreciate the expanded comments and acknowledge you've got it right in all you detail above.. And I didn't mean to come off harshly in my defense of Gary and EVERY guy out there who "hasn't forgot how to train"...

Increasingly, I'm joining the trainer community in their frustration with the growing direction of ownership that is pitching their tent exclusively with guys that DON'T NEED their support and who are 'pushing the envelope' in any way conceivable to win. It is reprehensible to me that a guy suspended for 6 months PICKED UP NEW CLIENTS (including Bev Lewis) while on a flagrant medication violation. It's disgusting that the supposed upper echelon of owners in this country wants to win so badly that they throw their support behind guys that are generally believed to be "taking an advantage".

Indeed, our venture is not out to make money in any way... It's designed to get as many people into 'ownership' as possible in a low risk/set price contribution to the acquisition of the bloodstock. After that, it's Chuck and Gary paying the freight in exchange for 50% of any and all earnings. And what we're doing is working as Chuck has already picked up 2 new clients and several horses via the attention received as a director in Dee Tee. Gary too is on an upswing again after an extended drought that began with the death of his two top owners. He got a former Clement client this week and 2 new wealthy owners that are at KEE with him this week to buy an early book yearling or two.

Guys like Chuck and Gary and dozens more deserve the respect and support of those interested in ownership based on their long histories of success in the game at the bloodstock identification and afternoon competition levels of racing. It's impossible to produce gaudy win percentages with inferior stock, and it's impossible to gain quality stock when prospective owners base their decision on phony win percentages padded on an uneven playing field.

Did Gary Contessa suddenly 'learn' how to train after years as an unabashed mediocrity? I don't think so.. Has Jim Toner or Del Carroll forgotten how to train suddenly after decades as 15-18% trainers? I don't think so.. I'm sure you get my point here...
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:43 AM
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Steve i wish you and all your partners a lot of luck in your Dee Tee stable ventures. I didnt make my Gary Sciacca comments because i dislike the guy, but more as a reality check for your partners, I really hope that any of those partners dont invest if they cant afford it. I am sure i have been watching this game for more yrs than you Steve. Knowing plenty of people that have owned and raced in the NY area. People that had a few with guys like A Jerkens and Laz Barrera and a few other of the top ones.
I know you wanna have fun with the partnership, and its all about taking a shot. And yes, i know alot of the angles of owning horses....
Getting a horse to the races, and earning money in the partnership is a huge longshot. I hope you find a huge money earner, but the odds are you wont...
Of the atleast 8 people i have known over the yrs that owned, and with those top trainers running the show......only one guy earned any money.....
With a stable of 10 horses...one horse carried the stable.
So while i wish you luck, hopefully these people that invest...CAN AFFORD to lose the money they more than likely to lose.
That's exactly it, Steve, Chuck and Gary have made it affordable for the "little guy" in this sport. Since most on this board are gamblers, I think we all have a pretty good idea of what we can afford.

I know you get it, but do you really get it?

Thanks for looking out for me. You don't happen to work in the Government do you?
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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Pardon my ignorance what does this mean? We were there for gary's win oin Toga!!! I had 10$$ across the board plus exacta, I got 426.00 also bought my kids 2 across the board! It was memorable.
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Pardon my ignorance what does this mean? We were there for gary's win oin Toga!!! I had 10$$ across the board plus exacta, I got 426.00 also bought my kids 2 across the board! It was memorable.

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Old 09-28-2007, 07:29 AM
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Just got my catalog for the Fall Mixed Sale at Saratoga (Oct. 14). Anything worth while there?
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:06 AM
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ummm, my partner and I own hip #309...catalog page needs correction. Legislature, out of Compund Girl, should be in black type. He finished 2nd in the Take Me Out S...however, Saratoga Warrior, #309, will be an "out"...

the on line catalog
http://nybreederssales.com/index2.shtml

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