Would the Travers get more entries if Run On Sept 1

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

What race is that?

My guess would be The Haskell.

[Ronnie]

Bluegrass Cat used the Haskell as a prep for the Travers last year.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

Bluegrass Cat used the Haskell as a prep for the Travers last year.

And Roman Ruler ran in both the year before. Yet each of the past three years the best horse has skipped the Haskell for the Dandy-Travers route.

[boswd]

I guess we'll have to see what happens next year. I personally think NYRA has to be proactive about the situation. If not change the date of The Travers then I would increase the purse of the Jim Dandy to $750,000 to give these trainers something to think about if they really want the Travers but want that extra week, $750,000 would look very attractive.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by boswd

I guess we'll have to see what happens next year. I personally think NYRA has to be proactive about the situation. If not change the date of The Travers then I would increase the purse of the Jim Dandy to $750,000 to give these trainers something to think about if they really want the Travers but want that extra week, $750,000 would look very attractive.

Or reduce the emphasis on the Dandy in exchange for Monmouth moving the Haskell up a week and running it on the same weekend as the Dandy.

[pointman]

NYRA is not going to change the date of the Travers, nor should they. Curlin and AGS were not ducking SS. The Haskell has not had a better field in the past few years than the Travers (Lionheart, Roman Ruler and BG Cat). The only reason IMO that Curlin and AGS ran in the Haskell this year is because the Breeder's Cup is at Monmouth. The Travers will draw the best 3 year olds that are still in training after the second week of June as it always does.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really, so if Street Sense was not in the race do you think they would have run in it?

I don't. Curlin has already beat Street Sense and I do think they chose the Haskell because of where the Classic will be this year.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really, so if Street Sense was not in the race do you think they would have run in it?

I think they would have run in it if the Breeder's Cup were held anywhere other than Monmouth this year. I agree with Nicole, Curlin has already beat SS, I serioulsy doubt they were afraid of him. Personally, I think that Curlin is a better horse than SS anyway. I also don't think that TP is afraid to run any of his top horses against anyone. Curlin and SS ran in the Haskell to take advantage of getting a race over that track prior to the Breeder's Cup. Just look at what the Haskell has drawn in the last few years. Roman Ruler was a nice horse, but there were better 3 year olds and no other top 3 year olds in the Haskell that year to the best of my memory, Park Avenue Ball, I think was one of the runners, hardly a top horse that year. Lionheart was a nice horse, but was no Birdstone. While Rock Hard Ten was in it that year, the second place finisher was a former claimer at Monmouth whose name escapes me right now, who ended up back in the claiming ranks. The fact that the Haskell got a better field this year had nothing to do with ducking SS.

[Bobby Fischer]

Slow travers

Borel says he was just racing to win , not racing the clock...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

Bluegrass Cat used the Haskell as a prep for the Travers last year.

against todds better judgement...owners pushed for that, and a faceoff with bernardini. turned out to be bluegrass cats last race. and no doubt todd felt he was right all along, and didn't want to do this year what he really didn't want to do last year.

i disagree tho that one was a prep for the other. but he ran well in the first, and everyone thought he had a legit shot to test the future 3 yo champ in the second. took him and todd out of their game.