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Old 09-04-2007, 09:53 PM
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While noble, is trying to save this foal the 'right thing to do' for the horse?[/quote]

Yes. Every animal has a right to a chance at life when brought into the world deliberately by humans. Euthanasia is always a choice along the way.

However it is entirely the decision of the owners. You lay out the options. You help them decide and weigh options. But whatever they decide, you go with.

I've killed easily healable animals because their owners didn't want to spend over $50 on them. I've killed perfectly fine and healthy animals just because nobody wanted them. I've had owners (most) with unlimited commitment, time, budget, love.

Only once have I ever had to tell an owner, who loved their pet, that it was past time to let the animal go. Owners know, and they don't get it wrong.

Nobody outside the owner can judge the owner's decision as to, "too much" or "too little", even though their own personal decision, if it were their own animal, would be different.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:00 PM
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Nobody outside the owner can judge the owner's decision as to, "too much" or "too little", even though their own personal decision, if it were their own animal, would be different.
This is always my position in this sort of discussion.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:05 PM
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While noble, is trying to save this foal the 'right thing to do' for the horse?
Yes. Every animal has a right to a chance at life when brought into the world deliberately by humans. Euthanasia is always a choice along the way.

However it is entirely the decision of the owners. You lay out the options. You help them decide and weigh options. But whatever they decide, you go with.

I've killed easily healable animals because their owners didn't want to spend over $50 on them. I've killed perfectly fine and healthy animals just because nobody wanted them. I've had owners (most) with unlimited commitment, time, budget, love.

Only once have I ever had to tell an owner, who loved their pet, that it was past time to let the animal go. Owners know, and they don't get it wrong.

Nobody outside the owner can judge the owner's decision as to, "too much" or "too little", even though their own personal decision, if it were their own animal, would be different.[/quote]


When I had to make that call (on a sunday) I wanted to make double sure and he just said, "owners know when it's time" I did but I wanted to hear something else.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:35 PM
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When I had to make that call (on a sunday) I wanted to make double sure and he just said, "owners know when it's time" I did but I wanted to hear something else.
I know. I'm sorry.

Nobody wants to be responsible for choosing that option, for picking the day or hour, for "playing god". I never wanted to with my own pets. It sucks. Owners need permission that it's okay to choose euthanasia, permission to not feel guilt, to know that their decision is indeed recognized as a final gift given to a much-loved animal.

This thread is too depressing now - I'm glad that foal is improving and doing better!
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:41 AM
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Updated info on the paraplegic foal's progress:

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=10493
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:08 PM
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Updated info on the paraplegic foal's progress:

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=10493
Lucky is truly lucky to have such caring people around him. I hope they have continued success with him.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:27 PM
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Updated info on the paraplegic foal's progress:

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=10493
Thanks for the update. i hope they have continued success with Lucky.
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