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[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.

yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.

It's pretty remarkable to look at the lifetime PP's for Ron. He was making starts nearly every two weeks as a two year old until the racing game (and right surface) finally woke him up.

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.

Where did the race start on route 36? The next 1 turn mile I see at Monmouth Park will be the first. I do agree though that Gotch Gold is better than he is given credit for and Lawyer Ron nearly did run him down against at STRONG Speed Bias. Personally I think that was a good race even though he didn't win.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker

Where did the race start on route 36? The next 1 turn mile I see at Monmouth Park will be the first. I do agree though that Gotch Gold is better than he is given credit for and Lawyer Ron nearly did run him down against at STRONG Speed Bias. Personally I think that was a good race even though he didn't win.

I thought Monmouth and Laurel both had one turn chute miles. If i'm wrong i stand corrected.
still i agree with you, it was a strong race even in defeat as its hard to make up ground there against a good speed horse like gotcha gold.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Is it hammertime? Lawyer Ron 7/2? Grasshopper at 25-1 is a decent play, no?

2007 BREEDERS CUP CLASSIC
Outcome Odds
LAWYER RON 7-2
STREET SENSE 4-1
ANY GIVEN SATURDAY 9-2
CURLIN 6-1
MANDURO 7-1
HARD SPUN 8-1
DIAMOND STRIPES 10-1
CORINTHIAN 10-1
DISCREET CAT 12-1
MASTER COMMAND 15-1
MAGNA GRADUATE 15-1
NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ 18-1
PAPI CHULO 20-1
POLITICAL FORCE 20-1
LEWIS MICHAEL 20-1
MINISTER'S BID 20-1
CIRCULAR QUAY 25-1
MOLENGAO 25-1
SURF CAT 25-1
FAIRBANKS 25-1
FIRST DEFENCE 25-1
GOTTCHA GOLD 25-1
STUDENT COUNCIL 25-1
DAAHER 25-1
GRASSHOPPER 25-1
HARLINGTON 30-1
TIAGO 30-1
SUN BOAT 30-1
BRASS HAT 30-1
LOOSE LEAF 30-1
SIGHTSEEING 35-1
MIDNIGHT LUTE 35-1
ZANJERO 35-1
TIMBER RESERVE 35-1
AP ARROW 40-1
BUZZARD'S BAY 40-1
HESANOLDSALT 40-1
WANDERIN BOY 40-1
ARSON SQUAD 40-1
AUTHORIZED 40-1
GREAT HUNTER 40-1
DELIGHTFULL KISS 40-1
PAVAROTTI 40-1
TIME SQUARED 40-1
CP WEST 40-1
KING OF THE ROXY 45-1
DOMINICAN 45-1
XCHANGER 45-1
LAVA MAN 50-1
JAZIL 50-1
SUN KING 50-1
TIZ WONDERFUL 50-1
MCCANN'S MOJAVE 55-1
PATRIOT ACT 55-1
SWEETNORTHERNSAINT 55-1
PERFECT DRIFT 60-1
POINT DETERMINED 60-1
GOTAGHOSTOFACHANCE 150-1
INVASOR Closed
CHELOKEE Closed
BOB AND JOHN Closed
SCAT DADDY Closed
FLASHY BULL Closed

[ninetoone]

I don't see Cowtown Cat on that list

[miraja2]

Circular Quay at 25/1 seems a bit odd to me, as does including Perfect Drift and Point Determined at all.
I would put the odds of CQ making the gate at around 35/1, and of winning it at around 75/1.
As for the two PDs, I don't see any chance of them being in that race.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think you might even be being generous in terms of CQ. I'd say the chance of him making it in the 200 to 300-1 range. And winning it, zero chance.

You are probably right.