Cigar was the best horse in the last 30 years

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

much the same could be said about winning colors and open mind.

is there any connection between the 3?

OH DON'T MAKE ME BEYOTCH SLAP YOU. DON'T YOU DISS ON MY GIRL WINNING COLORS.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

OH DON'T MAKE ME BEYOTCH SLAP YOU. DON'T YOU DISS ON MY GIRL WINNING COLORS.

are you kidding me? i loved that filly. i even bet her in the derby, with my friend telling me when she was 2 there was no way she'd lose the derby!

[alysheba4]

risen star, now that was an underated horse...........if he didnt get a hack job for a ride in the derby he would have won that race.

[horseofcourse]

I think Rags to Riches grueling summer of races is bringing all kinds of new fans to the sport. I can't even remember what she looks like!! (this is in relation to the post that said Cigar brought many new fans to the sport!)

On the topic of Cigar, I think he is better than he is being given credit for than most on this thread. I think KG lists way too many on his list. To me the best thing a horse can do is race a lot and win a lot. Cigar did that and most others listed don't. To me that is like saying Kevin Kouzmanoff is the best player in major league baseball, because the first pitch he saw as a big leaguer last year he hit a grand slam home run. And that just isn't true stating he is the best. But how many hall of famers hit the first pitch they saw for a grand slam?? Just because Ghostzapper could roll out 120 plus Beyers at will does not make him better than Cigar in my opinion. Just faster. HE had more grade 1 wins than Ghostzapper had starts. Going back 30 years picking up Affirmed and Bid and others...no way is he the best. But 25 years there are not too many better in my opinion. Some of the late 80s ones like Alysheba, and EG..SS perhaps, but I'm not too sure. Easy Goer and Sunday Silence did nothing as older horses.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Speaking realistically about something isn't dissing it.

correct, dissing would be the fact she's lucky Risen Star got a bad ride...lol

When both as a broodmare had a top earner around 500k and nothing else isn't dissing. Her top earner did have a decent earner in Japan sired by Sunday Silence.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Speaking realistically about something isn't dissing it.

I was only kidding around. Although I do love that filly.