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much the same could be said about winning colors and open mind. is there any connection between the 3? 
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I have no idea, other than several of their offspring have been sent to Japan. What am I missing?
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08-29-2007, 08:27 PM
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(are we still doing Sergio's Sunday night because I'll make reservations)
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they were all sired by horses more known for turf!! sorta?
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08-29-2007, 08:37 PM
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08-29-2007, 08:47 PM
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D. WAYNE LUKAS was the trainer of all three.
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Digging deeper, because I've got nothing better to do, here's Lukas' champion fillies results as producers:
Landaluce: (none, died at 2) Althea: nothing of note. Best was Aurora- listed SW Life's Magic: nothing of note. Best is Simon Pure- an allowance winner Family Style: 1 START out of 5 foals Lady's Secret: nothing of note, only 3 US winners North Sider: nothing of note, best was 2-15 Ruby My Dear Sacahuista: best was Ekraar, who won an Italian G1 Open Mind: 2 foals, a combined 4-48 Winning Colors: nothing of note in the US Flanders: Surfside, who was outstanding, and that's about it Golden Attraction: nothing of note, 5 to start, 4 winners, but no stakes winners Serena's Song: Grand Reward, Sophisticat, Harlington, and Serena's Tune all won graded stakes So other than Serena's Song, not much out of an incredibly good group of fillies.
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08-29-2007, 09:39 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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08-30-2007, 08:06 AM
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OH DON'T MAKE ME BEYOTCH SLAP YOU. DON'T YOU DISS ON MY GIRL WINNING COLORS. 
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I think Rags to Riches grueling summer of races is bringing all kinds of new fans to the sport. I can't even remember what she looks like!! (this is in relation to the post that said Cigar brought many new fans to the sport!)
On the topic of Cigar, I think he is better than he is being given credit for than most on this thread. I think KG lists way too many on his list. To me the best thing a horse can do is race a lot and win a lot. Cigar did that and most others listed don't. To me that is like saying Kevin Kouzmanoff is the best player in major league baseball, because the first pitch he saw as a big leaguer last year he hit a grand slam home run. And that just isn't true stating he is the best. But how many hall of famers hit the first pitch they saw for a grand slam?? Just because Ghostzapper could roll out 120 plus Beyers at will does not make him better than Cigar in my opinion. Just faster. HE had more grade 1 wins than Ghostzapper had starts. Going back 30 years picking up Affirmed and Bid and others...no way is he the best. But 25 years there are not too many better in my opinion. Some of the late 80s ones like Alysheba, and EG..SS perhaps, but I'm not too sure. Easy Goer and Sunday Silence did nothing as older horses.
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08-30-2007, 08:38 AM
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correct, dissing would be the fact she's lucky Risen Star got a bad ride...lol When both as a broodmare had a top earner around 500k and nothing else isn't dissing. Her top earner did have a decent earner in Japan sired by Sunday Silence.
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08-31-2007, 03:24 PM
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I was only kidding around. Although I do love that filly.
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