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Old 08-28-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default If Beyer writes a new book on synthetic surfaces.....

some possible titles are:

"1:16 and a cloud of Polydust"
"Kickback and greenbacks"
"The Winning Random Horseplayer"
"Beyer on One-Paced"
"The Magic Carpet ride"
"The most exciting 2:07 in sports"
"How to win on routes on the lead on Poly" (a VERY small book)
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:02 PM
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and then someone will get their doctorate explaining the biological basis for an inability to deal with change.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:11 PM
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"How Harness racing and T-bred racing have become similar."
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:24 PM
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forget the books, I have figured out a solution for those that don't like polytrack. it really took a lot of thought, but i think i've got the answer. let me know what you think. it just might work.

Albuquerque
Aqueduct
Arapahoe Park
Assiniboia Downs
Atlantic City
Bay Meadows
Belmont Park
Beulah Park
Blue Ribbon Downs
Calder Race Course
Canterbury Park
Charles Town
Churchill Downs
Colonial Downs
Delta Downs
Delaware Park
Ellis Park
Emerald Downs
Evangeline Downs
Fair Grounds
Fair Meadows
Fairmount Park
Fairplex Park
Ferndale
Finger Lakes
Fonner Park
Fort Erie
Fresno Fair
Golden Gate Fields
Great Lakes Downs
Gulfstream Park
Hastings Park
Hawthorne
Hollywood Park
Hoosier Park
Horsemen's Park
Indiana Downs
Kentucky Downs
Les Bois Park
Lone Star Park
Los Alamitos
Louisiana Downs
Marquis Downs
Meadowlands
Monmouth Park
Mountaineer Park
Northlands Park
Oaklawn Park
Penn National
Philadelphia Park
Pimlico
Playfair
Pleasanton
Portland Meadows
Prairie Meadows
Remington Park
Retama Park
Rillito Park
River Downs
Ruidoso Downs
Sacramento
Sam Houston
Santa Anita
Santa Rosa
Saratoga
Solano
Stockton
Suffolk Downs
Sunland Park
SunRay Park
Tampa Bay Downs
Thistledown
Turf Paradise
Woodlands
Yavapai Downs
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
forget the books, I have figured out a solution for those that don't like polytrack. it really took a lot of thought, but i think i've got the answer. let me know what you think. it just might work.

Albuquerque
Aqueduct
Arapahoe Park
Assiniboia Downs
Atlantic City
Bay Meadows
Belmont Park
Beulah Park
Blue Ribbon Downs
Calder Race Course
Canterbury Park
Charles Town
Churchill Downs
Colonial Downs
Delta Downs
Delaware Park
Ellis Park
Emerald Downs
Evangeline Downs

Fair Grounds
Fair Meadows
Fairmount Park
Fairplex Park
Ferndale
Finger Lakes

Fonner Park
Fort Erie
Fresno Fair
Golden Gate Fields
Great Lakes Downs
Gulfstream Park
Hastings Park
Hawthorne
Hollywood Park
Hoosier Park
Horsemen's Park
Indiana Downs
Kentucky Downs
Les Bois Park
Lone Star Park
Los Alamitos
Louisiana Downs
Marquis Downs
Meadowlands
Monmouth Park
Mountaineer Park
Northlands Park
Oaklawn Park
Penn National
Philadelphia Park
Pimlico
Playfair
Pleasanton
Portland Meadows
Prairie Meadows
Remington Park
Retama Park
Rillito Park
River Downs
Ruidoso Downs
Sacramento
Sam Houston
Santa Anita
Santa Rosa
Saratoga
Solano
Stockton
Suffolk Downs

Sunland Park
SunRay Park
Tampa Bay Downs
Thistledown
Turf Paradise
Woodlands
Yavapai Downs
I highlighted the active tracks.

I totally agree that there are a lot of other options out there. But many casual players used to look forward to boutique meets like Del Mar and Keeneland. My handle this year at Del Mar has been 5% of what it has been in previous years. I know I can adjust or play elsewhere, but I'd rather not bet on a 3500 claimer at Yavapai, Ferndale or Finger Lakes and I am actually headed to Del Mar for the Labor Day weekend and I am sure I'll be betting almost as much as I did last year there.

Sure there are other options.. but the best option would be to bet on Del Mar with a conventional dirt track. The CHRB rushed to a judgement and made a horrible decision.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:56 PM
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I highlighted the active tracks.

I totally agree that there are a lot of other options out there. But many casual players used to look forward to boutique meets like Del Mar and Keeneland. My handle this year at Del Mar has been 5% of what it has been in previous years. I know I can adjust or play elsewhere, but I'd rather not bet on a 3500 claimer at Yavapai, Ferndale or Finger Lakes and I am actually headed to Del Mar for the Labor Day weekend and I am sure I'll be betting almost as much as I did last year there.

Sure there are other options.. but the best option would be to bet on Del Mar with a conventional dirt track. The CHRB rushed to a judgement and made a horrible decision.
horrible decision? based on what? i know the Delmar handle is up and I believe the same has been true for Keeneland.

not everyone is throwing in the towel.

http://www.navycompass.com/news/newsview.asp?c=223739
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Albuquerque
Aqueduct
Arapahoe Park
Assiniboia Downs
Atlantic City
Bay Meadows
Belmont Park
Beulah Park
Blue Ribbon Downs
Calder Race Course
Canterbury Park
Charles Town
Churchill Downs
Colonial Downs
Delta Downs
Delaware Park
Ellis Park
Emerald Downs
Evangeline Downs
Fair Grounds
Fair Meadows
Fairmount Park
Fairplex Park
Ferndale
Finger Lakes
Fonner Park
Fort Erie
Fresno Fair
Golden Gate Fields
Great Lakes Downs
Gulfstream Park
Hastings Park
Hawthorne
Hollywood Park
Hoosier Park
Horsemen's Park
Indiana Downs
Kentucky Downs
Les Bois Park
Lone Star Park
Los Alamitos
Louisiana Downs
Marquis Downs
Meadowlands
Monmouth Park
Mountaineer Park
Northlands Park
Oaklawn Park
Penn National
Philadelphia Park
Pimlico
Playfair
Pleasanton
Portland Meadows
Prairie Meadows
Remington Park
Retama Park
Rillito Park
River Downs
Ruidoso Downs
Sacramento
Sam Houston
Santa Anita
Santa Rosa
Saratoga
Solano
Stockton
Suffolk Downs
Sunland Park
SunRay Park
Tampa Bay Downs
Thistledown
Turf Paradise
Woodlands
Yavapai Downs

Yeah vavy.
Racing at its finest.

The order they are in after the first 3f is basically the order of finish.
Look out thar. 3.20 payouts rolling in. Dont need no rubber sand to create any possibilty of looking at a race in a new way. Might have to think differently and that hurts me head.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
forget the books, I have figured out a solution for those that don't like polytrack. it really took a lot of thought, but i think i've got the answer. let me know what you think. it just might work.

Albuquerque
Aqueduct
Arapahoe Park
Assiniboia Downs
Atlantic City
Bay Meadows
Belmont Park
Beulah Park
Blue Ribbon Downs
Calder Race Course
Canterbury Park
Charles Town
Churchill Downs
Colonial Downs
Delta Downs
Delaware Park
Ellis Park
Emerald Downs
Evangeline Downs
Fair Grounds
Fair Meadows
Fairmount Park
Fairplex Park
Ferndale
Finger Lakes
Fonner Park
Fort Erie
Fresno Fair
Golden Gate Fields
Great Lakes Downs
Gulfstream Park
Hastings Park
Hawthorne
Hollywood Park
Hoosier Park
Horsemen's Park
Indiana Downs
Kentucky Downs
Les Bois Park
Lone Star Park
Los Alamitos
Louisiana Downs
Marquis Downs
Meadowlands
Monmouth Park
Mountaineer Park
Northlands Park
Oaklawn Park
Penn National
Philadelphia Park
Pimlico
Playfair
Pleasanton
Portland Meadows
Prairie Meadows
Remington Park
Retama Park
Rillito Park
River Downs
Ruidoso Downs
Sacramento
Sam Houston
Santa Anita
Santa Rosa
Saratoga
Solano
Stockton
Suffolk Downs
Sunland Park
SunRay Park
Tampa Bay Downs
Thistledown
Turf Paradise
Woodlands
Yavapai Downs
I think we can lump Cushion and Tapeta and Empire Carpet in as well....

That takes out Hollywood, Golden Gate, Bay Meadows, Santa Anita not to mention Presque Isle. And how many wagering outlets take Blue Ribbon, Assiniboa, Playfair, Les Bois, Fair Meadows, Rilto, Woodlands et al? Horseman's Park, Atlantic City and KY Downs run a couple days a year. Then toss in the fact that CDI/Magna lock out their signal from other betting services and NYRA is locked out of a few others. That list certainly shrank awfully quick. I hope to God it doesn't keep on shrinking.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:49 PM
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I think we can lump Cushion and Tapeta and Empire Carpet in as well....

That takes out Hollywood, Golden Gate, Bay Meadows, Santa Anita not to mention Presque Isle. And how many wagering outlets take Blue Ribbon, Assiniboa, Playfair, Les Bois, Fair Meadows, Rilto, Woodlands et al? Horseman's Park, Atlantic City and KY Downs run a couple days a year. Then toss in the fact that CDI/Magna lock out their signal from other betting services and NYRA is locked out of a few others. That list certainly shrank awfully quick. I hope to God it doesn't keep on shrinking.

Brisbet's Saturday menu:

It's ugly with Del Mar, ARL ( POLY ) and 'toga ( NYRA ) taken out of the equation.. making Calder the only playable track to me


12:25 PM Philadelphia Park*
12:45 PM Delaware Park*
12:45 PM Suffolk Downs
12:50 PM Calder (TO)
1:05 PM Ohio 7 & 7
1:05 PM Timonium

1:10 PM Woodbine - POLY
1:40 PM Ellis Park
2:00 PM Arlington Park - POLY
2:25 PM Louisiana Downs*
3:00 PM Northlands Park
3:00 PM Ruidoso Downs (TO)*
4:10 PM Yavapai Downs
4:25 PM Hastings Park*
4:45 PM Bay Meadows
5:00 PM Canterbury Park*

5:00 PM Del Mar (TO) - POLY
5:00 PM Emerald Downs (TO)*
5:30 PM Presque Isle* - POLY??
6:30 PM Great Lakes Downs
7:00 PM Mountaineer Park*
7:00 PM Sam Houston
7:15 PM Charles Town*
7:30 PM Prairie Meadows*
7:30 PM Remington Park
8:00 PM Assiniboia
10:00 PM Australia
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:35 PM
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some possible titles are:
"The most exciting 2:07 in sports"
Arlington polytrack record for 5F beats 5F dirt track record -

The first of Douglas’s win quartet came in the fifth race of the afternoon when he rode Hugh Robertson and Ron Bandy’s Smack Daddy to a track-record performance of :56.51 for the five-furlong distance.

That record was set over Arlington’s new Polytrack surface during a race that was originally scheduled for the grass but taken off due to turf conditions. However, the time also eclipsed Arlington’s old main track mark partially held by Shecky Greene – a nationally-known sprinter of another era.
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