why hard spun sucks... - Page 4

SentToStud · #61 08-27-2007, 06:10 PM

Bifurcate.... don't see that one used much these days.

ELA · #62 08-27-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Bifurcate.... don't see that one used much these days.

Segment?

OK, seperate (I don't have spell-checker and actually wasn't sure about the spelling, LOL).

Eric

SentToStud · #63 08-27-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

Segment?

OK, seperate (I don't have spell-checker and actually wasn't sure about the spelling, LOL).

Eric

You used it right (I think). I'm keeping it handy for use at the right time....

2Hot4TV · #64 08-27-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Is it graded and how much is the purse?

The mile / dirt has a purse of 1 million dollars and is actually run at 1 mile and 70 yard this year because of the track configuration. ( I guess) Dont know if it is graded. He fits the mile much better than the Classic.

brianwspencer · #65 08-27-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

The mile / dirt has a purse of 1 million dollars and is actually run at 1 mile and 70 yard this year because of the track configuration. ( I guess) Dont know if it is graded. He fits the mile much better than the Classic.

It's not graded, as far as I know.

#66 08-27-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

The mile / dirt has a purse of 1 million dollars and is actually run at 1 mile and 70 yard this year because of the track configuration. ( I guess) Dont know if it is graded. He fits the mile much better than the Classic.

Lava Man and Discreet Cat are going in that race. Highly unlikely they will ever allowHard Spun to race against Discreet Cat.

Cajungator26 · #67 08-27-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think it's highly unlikey Lava Man ships again. O'Neill should have learned that by now. I am also dubious Discreet Cat makes the race.

Here's a good question. Who runs in more races from this day to the end of the year? Discreet Cat or Rags To Riches?

C.) None of the above.

#68 08-27-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think it's highly unlikey Lava Man ships again. O'Neill should have learned that by now. I am also dubious Discreet Cat makes the race.

Here's a good question. Who runs in more races from this day to the end of the year? Discreet Cat or Rags To Riches?

Discreet Cat will get there and will probably do something similar to Ghostzapper's Met Mile and wow everyone, then they will retire him.

philcski · #69 08-27-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2Reason

Discreet Cat will get there and will probably do something similar to Ghostzapper's Met Mile and wow everyone, then they will retire him.

Here's the difference... Ghostzapper had nothing to prove to breeders at that point in his career. He was already the best horse in the world by 4-5 lengths at any distance, and unfortunately a fracture would have kept him out of training for too long as a 5yo. Discreet Cat has shown flashes of brilliance but hasn't sustained anything to justify a sky high stud fee.

Indian Charlie · #70 08-27-2007, 07:48 PM

lets see, who's more likely to race.

a filly who is already in race shape and is worth maybe 5 mil?

or a fragile colt that just had his first workout a mere 2 months before the bc, and is worth maybe 50 mil?

hmm.

Bobby Fischer · #71 08-27-2007, 07:51 PM

DC is a nice 7f horse

Sightseek · #72 08-27-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Have you ever considered working for DRF or the bloodhorse? They could use insight like this.

You should at least be on those Siro's seminars.

OOOOOOOOOO

King Glorious · #73 08-27-2007, 08:36 PM

Hard Spun showed a lot of courage the other day. He's earned my respect as a horse that u have to consider at any distance under 12f. But as much courage as he showed the other day, it didn't inspire me to believe that he'd be able to hold off better horses than First Defence next time. A horse like Surf Cat or Greg's Gold would have likely run right on by while First Defence didn't. Even at 6f. Stretching him out to a mile against top classes horses wouldn't seem to be the move either because the race is an elongated sprint and would set up the same way. The Classic seems like it's the best option for him because he's more than likely to be able to control the pace and slow them down like he did in the Derby. But then I don't think he's going to beat the best 3yo's or Lawyer Ron at 10f. I see him as a horse without a race. I think he's probably best at 9f and I expect to see him dominate the KY Cup Classic, assuming Street Sense is not there. Then on to the Classic.

Indian Charlie · #74 08-27-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Have you ever considered working for DRF or the bloodhorse? They could use insight like this.

You should at least be on those Siro's seminars.

you should be receiving some pea garden flyers later this week.

Sightseek · #75 08-27-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Hard Spun showed a lot of courage the other day. He's earned my respect as a horse that u have to consider at any distance under 12f. But as much courage as he showed the other day, it didn't inspire me to believe that he'd be able to hold off better horses than First Defence next time. A horse like Surf Cat or Greg's Gold would have likely run right on by while First Defence didn't. Even at 6f. Stretching him out to a mile against top classes horses wouldn't seem to be the move either because the race is an elongated sprint and would set up the same way. The Classic seems like it's the best option for him because he's more than likely to be able to control the pace and slow them down like he did in the Derby. But then I don't think he's going to beat the best 3yo's or Lawyer Ron at 10f. I see him as a horse without a race. I think he's probably best at 9f and I expect to see him dominate the KY Cup Classic, assuming Street Sense is not there. Then on to the Classic.

Kind of like how Surf Cat has done in his past two races?

Indian Charlie · #76 08-27-2007, 08:44 PM

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Kind of like how Surf Cat has done in his past two races?

wow, the new sightseek!

avatar-less, sarcastic and hard edged!

Sightseek · #77 08-27-2007, 08:53 PM

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wow, the new sightseek!

avatar-less, sarcastic and hard edged!

What can I say, I have a warm and cuddly side.

King Glorious · #78 08-27-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Kind of like how Surf Cat has done in his past two races?

Tough crowd.

1st race was a comebacker from a 14-month layoff giving the winner a lot of weight.

2nd race was on the junk track against a grade one race winner who had an affinity for the stuff.

I understand your point though but do u really want to compare First Defence to Surf Cat here?

SniperSB23 · #79 08-27-2007, 09:06 PM

I think everyone is overrating the lure of the BC Dirt Mile. The top horses there are going to be horses like Wanderin Boy. You aren't going to get the Hard Spuns, Lawyer Rons, and Discreet Cats. It is an ungraded race that isn't even on BC Day and anyone with a chance in the BC Classic is going to take it.

Indian Charlie · #80 08-27-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I think everyone is overrating the lure of the BC Dirt Mile. The top horses there are going to be horses like Wanderin Boy. You aren't going to get the Hard Spuns, Lawyer Rons, and Discreet Cats. It is an ungraded race that isn't even on BC Day and anyone with a chance in the BC Classic is going to take it.

you might be right at that, but then again, i've seen some real monster dirt horses bypass the bc entirely because they had little hope of getting 10 and were just not suited for going 6.