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Old 08-24-2007, 10:21 PM
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You people who suggest we move on..... if this were a stakes race and not an $8k claiming race, I wonder if you'd be outraged.....

that has nothing to do with it. jockey did what he was supposed to do. obviously if baze KNEW what was going to happen, he'd have done differently. he didn't know. you don't have time to THINK in that situation, just time to react. he did the right thing. he shouldn't be put thru the wringer because the poor horse broke down. the horse took a bad step, and that happens. he stopped riding. horse changed leads, and took off again. everything seems fine, so he rides him out. use of the whip did not cause the breakdown --the two occurred simultaneously.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:37 PM
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The horse took several bad steps and switched leads to save his injured leg, at which point the Buck-toothed ******* hit him with the whip, MAKING him run on. I would think if a jockey has won close to 10,000 races that would mean he's ridden close to 100,000, you trying to tell me he couldn't tell the horse injured himself, it was obvious that was no bobble, the horses head went straight up. I have never before yesterday seen a jockey whip a horse to continue after it has injured itself, most jockeys with a brain and a heart would automatically take hold of the horse to prevent further injury to itself.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:33 PM
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i watched the replay of the race, and it does look bad. After the horse takes the bad step and goes into some distress he never actually starts running again like they're implying, like someone else said he switches leads obviously but he was not running with anywhere near the same interest. its hard to believe that a guy with his experience would not have picked up on the fact that something was wrong. when you see the whip come out on a horse that is laboring it's really sickening. maybe Baze was acting on instinct, lets hear his side of it. if the story remains that he thought the horse started running again that will be hard to swallow for me.

i think MMSC might have a point about the class of the race, or maybe even the venue. imagine the outrage if that horse were a national well known star, say in a GR1 race televised live on tv. would everyone still be happy with the "oh well I thought he was still running" explanation? I wonder.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:03 PM
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I just watched the replay, and I find it hard to believe that a jockey with so much experience couldn't tell that the horse he was on was in some sort of distress. I want to give Baze the benefit of the doubt, but I am having a hard time doing that. I think he got distracted by the wire. He knew something went wrong, but the horse changed leads and he thought that he could keep him together for another 50 yards. When really the horse should have been pulled up immediatley, reguardless of the odds or track position.
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I just watched the replay, and I find it hard to believe that a jockey with so much experience couldn't tell that the horse he was on was in some sort of distress. I want to give Baze the benefit of the doubt, but I am having a hard time doing that. I think he got distracted by the wire. He knew something went wrong, but the horse changed leads and he thought that he could keep him together for another 50 yards. When really the horse should have been pulled up immediatley, reguardless of the odds or track position.

Agreed.

Like with so many people in this sport, greed got the better of him in my opinion.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:36 PM
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Agreed.

Like with so many people in this sport, greed got the better of him in my opinion.
others are suggesting he didn't care about this horse since it was an 8k claimer--is it lack of caring for a cheap horse, or greed? it can't be both.
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I would think if a jockey has won close to 10,000 races that would mean he's ridden close to 100,000, you trying to tell me he couldn't tell the horse injured himself
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