Procott set up - 8/25

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Scav

TVG and Youbet are essentially married right now. Youbet doesn't want to piss TVG off because of a long term relationship, but they don't want to pay the cash to Tracknet.

If TVG loses the NYRA contract, they would be screwed.

its not open ended ..maybee your boycott could include tvg/you dont get to bet....they are holding the world to a edge of a building you go with tvg /you bet both of whom are not available in all parts of the usa..nyra must do something............

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

its not open ended ..maybee your boycott could include tvg/you dont get to bet....they are holding the world to a edge of a building you go with tvg /you bet both of whom are not available in all parts of the usa..nyra must do something............

This has ZERO to do with the NYRA. Honestly, I totally understand why these tracks signed exculsive contracts with TVG way back when. They didn't know what they were dealing with in TVG and 'trusted' them to deal in good faith. The fact is that TVG needs to get their act together and quick or it is possible they won't be around, especially if the NYRA doesn't renew their contract.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Scav

This has ZERO to do with the NYRA. Honestly, I totally understand why these tracks signed exculsive contracts with TVG way back when. They didn't know what they were dealing with in TVG and 'trusted' them to deal in good faith. The fact is that TVG needs to get their act together and quick or it is possible they won't be around, especially if the NYRA doesn't renew their contract.

if nothing esle then nyra needs to be aware of the 50 mill or so they are not getting due to the way things are.. or expamd the nyra internet gaming to include the rest of the nation and world..and stick it to the tvg /you bet man

[Riot]

I tried to wade through the thread on the other site, rather unsuccessfully - just tell me, Scavs, can I use my Xpressbet or Youbet account to do this? Or do they get their cut and that's not good, etc?

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Riot

I tried to wade through the thread on the other site, rather unsuccessfully - just tell me, Scavs, can I use my Xpressbet or Youbet account to do this? Or do they get their cut and that's not good, etc?

my understanding of the action is to show our potential influence by increasing the handle in an otherwise-small pool. Last Saturday ALB in about $120,000 in handle. If we can get 300 people to put $150 into that pool that would increase their handle by over a third. Our hope is that we get noticed.

It doesn't really matter which ADW you use for the purposes of this. Scav thinks that it would be counterproductive to use a service that is "part of the problem" because they get their cut anyway.

I have accounts all over the place -- youbet, Bris, and PTC. I will be using the in a latter for this purpose.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Riot

I tried to wade through the thread on the other site, rather unsuccessfully - just tell me, Scavs, can I use my Xpressbet or Youbet account to do this? Or do they get their cut and that's not good, etc?

Personal opinion here but I think what is going on at Albq this weekend is way to quick. I don't understand the financial impact that doing this 'procott' has on the ADW's and Tracknet/TVG. I am hoping that this has some minor success so when the full fledged boycott happens, we really catch their attention

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Scav

Personal opinion here but I think what is going on at Albq this weekend is way to quick. I don't understand the financial impact that doing this 'procott' has on the ADW's and Tracknet/TVG. I am hoping that this has some minor success so when the full fledged boycott happens, we really catch their attention

I agree that it is too quick.

[Bobby Fischer]

have you guys ever thought about organizing your Procott to a single race and wager?



for example: If everyone involved wagered $20 on say the Trifecta in Race1 at Albq...
100 players would add $2,000 for that trifecta pool.

You may get better actual participation with a moderate wager. Most importantly you could pin-point the Effect of your Procott.

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

if nothing esle then nyra needs to be aware of the 50 mill or so they are not getting due to the way things are.. or expamd the nyra internet gaming to include the rest of the nation and world..and stick it to the tvg /you bet man

Hooves

NYRA can not control STATE law that mandates where customers may have ADW accounts. Most states limit / restrict account wagering it is not NYRA, Youbet, Brisbet or Expressbet it is the GREEDY state legislatures that are restricting what accounts you can and can't use. Ture there is infighting with the track signals / content but that doesn't necessarily impact who you can wager with.

For example I think in NJ residents are only permitted to wager online using a NJ wgaering account, but you can pretty much place a wager on any race that has a simulcast agreement with the NJSEA.

There are two issues here:

1. State law mandating what accounts residents may have, this could probably be overridden by a federal law unfortunately that is unlikely to happen.

2. The exclusivity agreements and fees paid for the tracks signals. This is want TVG, Tracknet and Youbet are fighting about.