Vick

King Glorious · #1 08-22-2007, 07:34 PM

Question. Does anyone know how this would be treated if it had happened in one of the two states that this was not a felony?

somerfrost · #2 08-22-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Question. Does anyone know how this would be treated if it had happened in one of the two states that this was not a felony?

Since the Feds have charged him, I don't see that it would be any different! The state Attorney General has yet to file state charges and probably won't. He crossed state lines and may even have organized crime involvement...wouldn't matter if he lived in Siberia! (joking).

ddthetide · #3 08-22-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Since the Feds have charged him, I don't see that it would be any different! The state Attorney General has yet to file state charges and probably won't. He crossed state lines and may even have organized crime involvement...wouldn't matter if he lived in Siberia! (joking).

i read yesterday that the state intends to press charges now and that they carry more than 5 yrs. IF that is the case, then his nfl career is over.
as it should be.

Danzig · #4 08-22-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Question. Does anyone know how this would be treated if it had happened in one of the two states that this was not a felony?

hmmm

maybe you should be vicks lawyer. that would be a hell of a defense. but judge, it's not a felony everywhere. i don't think it's fair that my client was charged since he committed these crimes in the wrong state.

wtf does that have to do with anything? he's a criminal, having committed these crimes for about six years. ever since he was able to afford his very own illegal dog fighting operation. how proud everyone must be of him. i mean, of all the avenues available to him--he chose this one. what a great human being.

King Glorious · #5 08-23-2007, 01:15 AM

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hmmm

maybe you should be vicks lawyer. that would be a hell of a defense. but judge, it's not a felony everywhere. i don't think it's fair that my client was charged since he committed these crimes in the wrong state.

wtf does that have to do with anything? he's a criminal, having committed these crimes for about six years. ever since he was able to afford his very own illegal dog fighting operation. how proud everyone must be of him. i mean, of all the avenues available to him--he chose this one. what a great human being.

I'm going to challenge u. Find one post where I have said he's innocent, just ONE........and I'll leave this forum forever. I'm sure u can read Danzig. I said it was a QUESTION. I didn't know the answer and I was asking if anyone did. How about u provide me a list of questions that are suitable to u that I can ask. That would help me in my quest to please u.

Danzig · #6 08-23-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm going to challenge u. Find one post where I have said he's innocent, just ONE........and I'll leave this forum forever. I'm sure u can read Danzig. I said it was a QUESTION. I didn't know the answer and I was asking if anyone did. How about u provide me a list of questions that are suitable to u that I can ask. That would help me in my quest to please u.

oh don't be ridiculous. has nothing to do with whether you thought he was guilty, my opinion is that most hypothetical questions are silly and meaningless. but ask away, i'm certainly not any judge and jury. post what you want, i'll do the same.

#7 08-23-2007, 02:59 PM

The Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP says Vick should be allowed to play again after his rehabilitation. Stephon Marbury sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Says its a sport just like hunting. Here it comes.

Meanwhile... 50 dogs owned by Vick will most likely be euthanized. They are the culled killers that are too dangerous to be kept.

Cajungator26 · #8 08-23-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

The Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP says Vick should be allowed to play again after his rehabilitation. Stephon Marbury sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Says its a sport just like hunting. Here it comes.

Meanwhile... 50 dogs owned by Vick will most likely be euthanized. They are the culled killers that are too dangerous to be kept.

It's a sad thing, but I understand why...

deltagulf · #9 08-27-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It's a sad thing, but I understand why...

it hurts deeply i have two pit bulls who are the most lovable dogs you would want. they even play with my daughters two cats. it will be a sham if they let him play in the nfl again. cause know he is going to say what the people want to hear. myself will never believe that he means it. ben going on for 6 years and still if he would not have been caught.

Cajungator26 · #10 08-27-2007, 02:05 PM

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it hurts deeply i have two pit bulls who are the most lovable dogs you would want. they even play with my daughters two cats. it will be a sham if they let him play in the nfl again. cause know he is going to say what the people want to hear. myself will never believe that he means it. ben going on for 6 years and still if he would not have been caught.

I agree... I also had a pit bull. Unfortunately, if they are enabled to fight and taught to kill, you can't put them in a home. It's way too risky and dangerous. It's just sad...

skippy3481 · #11 08-23-2007, 03:16 PM

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

AeWingnut · #12 08-23-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

I think he plans to help OJ find the real killers after he gets out of jail.

#13 08-23-2007, 06:50 PM

Just listened to a sports radio talk show driving home from work. Plenty of callers that were quite obviously African American were saying Vick is being punished because white America loves dogs more than people...

Its going racial. I had a feeling.

2MinsToPost · #14 08-24-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

This post is dead solid perfect

King Glorious · #15 08-25-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

I am African American and I agree with this post 100%. In a lot of instances, I think the NAACP is a joke. This doesn't change my thoughts.

somerfrost · #16 08-25-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I am African American and I agree with this post 100%. In a lot of instances, I think the NAACP is a joke. This doesn't change my thoughts.

The hero worship can only take folks so far, the NAACP should remember that Vick's main accusors are now his friends...all black folks as well! I understand the hesitation of the black community to fall into blind acceptance of a justice system that has failed them so often, but this is NOT the case to take a stand behind...Vick has now admitted his guilt...the fat lady has sung, Elvis has left the building, Jim Morrison has pulled has pants back up...it's over!