Travers Stakes (gr. I)

miraja2 · #1 08-22-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd

Will admit not the most steller field but last weeks edition of the Pac Classic was just as pathetic, with only Lava Man having done anything he still get beat by an allowance horse.

It is a tough call. The Travers has Street Sense going for it, but at least the Pacific Classic had a nice big field of crappy horses, while this race only has a few crappy horses. As to which is worse, I think it is probably better not to think about it. It is just too depressing.
I am actually getting kind of bored listening to everyone (including myself in a big way) complain about the quality of these races. It sucks, but I guess the thing to do is just sit down, look at the past performances, and focus on trying to find that winning exotic. As a fan of the sport it sucks, but I guess we all just need to shift from fan of the sport to cold-hearted handicapper (most of us typically have a good mixture of both) when races come up looking like this.
So, if the tri isn't going to be chalky and be a repeat of the Jim Dandy, who is it going to be?

Sightseek · #2 08-22-2007, 04:03 PM

I can generally be pretty thrilled over a competive field in a Graded Stakes even if they are not true Grade X, Y or Z types, but unfortunately this has been the second year in a row that we only have one standout and one improving horse (possible two with Grasshopper).

boswd · #3 08-22-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

It is a tough call. The Travers has Street Sense going for it, but at least the Pacific Classic had a nice big field of crappy horses, while this race only has a few crappy horses. As to which is worse, I think it is probably better not to think about it. It is just too depressing.
I am actually getting kind of bored listening to everyone (including myself in a big way) complain about the quality of these races. It sucks, but I guess the thing to do is just sit down, look at the past performances, and focus on trying to find that winning exotic. As a fan of the sport it sucks, but I guess we all just need to shift from fan of the sport to cold-hearted handicapper (most of us typically have a good mixture of both) when races come up looking like this.
So, if the tri isn't going to be chalky and be a repeat of the Jim Dandy, who is it going to be?

I'm throwing in Grasshopper and Loose leaf just for giggles.

declansharbor · #4 08-22-2007, 04:08 PM

CP West to turn in a hell of an effort here to nip SS 2 steps before the wire.
At least thats how I have it.

letswastemoney · #5 08-22-2007, 04:42 PM

what do the sheets say about this race

fpsoxfan · #6 08-22-2007, 05:02 PM

It's not like anyone should be real suprised. We've known for weeks that this race was going to come up short. The rest of the card looks outstanding. Full fields, nice turf races and a very interesting Kings Bishop. The Travers has the Kentucky Derby Winner that is trained by a classy guy and ridden by a guy who's added a little excitement to the meet. So fill up your coolers with your favorite beverage and enjoy yourself. I know I'm going to.

Danzig · #7 08-22-2007, 07:33 PM

nafzger says he's afraid of sightseeing in here. i can understand why. hope that shug wins another travers!

ateamstupid · #8 08-22-2007, 07:37 PM

I love Grasshopper, but I'm afraid he might become the wiseguy horse. Hoping for 6/1 or greater.

10 pnt move up · #9 08-22-2007, 11:41 PM

I like Street Sense, he looks solid.

Cajungator26 · #10 08-23-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

CP West to turn in a hell of an effort here to nip SS 2 steps before the wire.
At least thats how I have it.

How is C P West going to nip SS at the wire? C P West should be on the lead the whole time and I highly doubt he'll be coming back at the end if SS passes him...

If anything, it will be SS nipping C P West at the wire.

ArlJim78 · #11 08-23-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How is C P West going to nip SS at the wire? C P West should be on the lead the whole time and I highly doubt he'll be coming back at the end if SS passes him...

If anything, it will be SS nipping C P West at the wire.

Its not like it hasn't been done before though.
Curlin came back and nipped Street Sense at the wire after having been passed by him.

Cajungator26 · #12 08-23-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Its not like it hasn't been done before though.
Curlin came back and nipped Street Sense at the wire after having been passed by him.

I don't remember Curlin being the pace the whole time during the Preakness. I believe C P West will be up front most if not all of the way, and I think it'll be a bit tougher to come back after 10 furlongs. Do you think otherwise?

ArlJim78 · #13 08-23-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I don't remember Curlin being the pace the whole time during the Preakness. I believe C P West will be up front most if not all of the way, and I think it'll be a bit tougher to come back after 10 furlongs. Do you think otherwise?

no, but regardless of the pace i was pointing out that someone had came back to nip him which should not have happened if you ask me.

i really expect CP to be the pace setter and the whole complexion of the race will depend on what kind of pace he is allowed to set and how much stamina he has. he showed big improvement last time out.