A Saratoga Crime

Scav · #1 08-20-2007, 07:56 PM

If that 3 horse didn't deserve to come down, then I must be blind.

While I will agree that the 8 was drifting out, the 3 (Who I know a couple of the partners EXTREMELY WELL) bumped the 8 while on even terms twice, and then straight up cut him off making him what looked like clipping heels.

I feel the DQ was warranted

fpsoxfan · #2 08-20-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If that 3 horse didn't deserve to come down, then I must be blind.

While I will agree that the 8 was drifting out, the 3 (Who I know a couple of the partners EXTREMELY WELL) bumped the 8 while on even terms twice, and then straight up cut him off making him what looked like clipping heels.

I feel the DQ was warranted

You saw something that I didn't see. Read the NY Post tomorrow and see what they say. It was a horrible call by the stewards. Out of the 100 people standing around us probably 75 needed the 8 horse on top(because it was chalk) and not one person could understand what happened.

fpsoxfan · #3 08-20-2007, 08:08 PM

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I don't know if the NY Post will help our arguement here, IMO they leave something to be desired racing wise.

Bad example I know, but they always have a "look through the binocs" and I'm sure tomorrow they will be going nuts.

santana · #4 08-20-2007, 09:56 PM

While the 3 was easily the best.....to not take him down would have been a great message......get your spurs and boots on guys. It is now Rodeo time.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 08-21-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If that 3 horse didn't deserve to come down, then I must be blind.

While I will agree that the 8 was drifting out, the 3 (Who I know a couple of the partners EXTREMELY WELL) bumped the 8 while on even terms twice, and then straight up cut him off making him what looked like clipping heels.

I feel the DQ was warranted

huh..what does knowing the partners have to do with it... coa got crazy with the left handed whip and took room from the 8..totally good dq..and i would have had a better pick 4 with the three......

Ronnie · #6 08-21-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

huh..what does knowing the partners have to do with it...

I thought the same thing but thought better to just let it go.

Scav · #7 08-20-2007, 08:04 PM

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Scavs, when the horse was cut off, it was very close to the wire and the race was no longer in question. How as a bettor can you be okay with YOU being penalized for a mistake Coa made and has made. The race wasn't in question anymore. It is not right for the bettor, or the connections.

the 3 bumped into the 8 multiple times, one of them knocking him sideways, before all of that. You couple that on top of that cut off, where Desormeux almost got dumped, and you have a warranted DQ. I don't disagree that the 3 was the best horse but it is hard to argue with that DQ IMO

fpsoxfan · #8 08-20-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

the 3 bumped into the 8 multiple times, one of them knocking him sideways, before all of that. You couple that on top of that cut off, where Desormeux almost got dumped, and you have a warranted DQ. I don't disagree that the 3 was the best horse but it is hard to argue with that DQ IMO

Huh??????

Scav · #9 08-20-2007, 08:07 PM

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Huh??????

I am going to watch it one more time, 1 second

fpsoxfan · #10 08-20-2007, 08:10 PM

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I am going to watch it one more time, 1 second

OK...no matter what you and I see can I ask you this? Why was there no jockey's Objection. Can any of you guys shed some light on this???

Scav · #11 08-20-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

OK...no matter what you and I see can I ask you this? Why was there no jockey's Objection. Can any of you guys shed some light on this???

Objections cost cash, if you lodge an objection I think it costs $100 or something (from the jock). And they probably already knew they were looking at it. I could be 100% wrong about this

Scav · #12 08-20-2007, 08:14 PM

the 3 was drifting in and Eibar was trying to correct it. He slightly bumps into into him once, and then a off stride bump, gets him straight and then completely cuts him off BEFORE the line.

My guess it that Eibar had to think he was clear, when he really wasn't, but again, I think that DQ was fairly straight forward

Ronnie · #13 08-20-2007, 08:14 PM

Does there need to be duplicity? If the jockey knows the stewards are looking into it, why then would he put in a jockey's inquiry? I guess that I don't know that much about inquiries, and I see that I am not alone.

fpsoxfan · #14 08-20-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Objections cost cash, if you lodge an objection I think it costs $100 or something (from the jock). And they probably already knew they were looking at it. I could be 100% about this

Did not know that. Interesting. 20 years in this game and still learning.

santana · #15 08-20-2007, 09:59 PM

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OK...no matter what you and I see can I ask you this? Why was there no jockey's Objection. Can any of you guys shed some light on this???

PROBABLY kent knew that horse was 1/5 to come down....you cant ride like a freaken cowboy out there.