Lava Man

cmorioles · #1 08-20-2007, 12:34 PM

To judge Lava Man off this race is just silly. The horse will do just fine on dirt or turf next time. Unless today's race is on poly/cushion, just draw a line through all those Hol/AP/Kee/Dmr/TP/WO races. You'll make yourself some cash.

miraja2 · #2 08-20-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

To judge Lava Man off this race is just silly. The horse will do just fine on dirt or turf next time. Unless today's race is on poly/cushion, just draw a line through all those Hol/AP/Kee/Dmr/TP/WO races. You'll make yourself some cash.

I see what you are saying, but do you really think the racing at Arlington and Hollywood is even comparable to the so-called "racing" going on at Del Mar and Keeneland.

cmorioles · #3 08-20-2007, 01:59 PM

It is certainly not on the same level. Still, I would say racing at AP and Hol is closer to Kee than a normal dirt track. The pace times of the winners, when adjusted for overall track speed, are two to three lengths slower in sprint races and three to four in route races at AP compared to the old dirt. Hollywood is very similar to AP.

At Delmar, sprints are similar to AP, and routes are way, way slower early. The average winner has to run 1 and a half seconds slower to the pace call while recording the same final time. That is about 9 lengths or so!

FYI, WO and TP have sprints nearly identical to the dirt tracks they once had. Routes have changed a few lengths, but not to the degree of the others.

Bobby Fischer · #4 08-20-2007, 05:20 PM

WO and TP are closer to dirt in speed and kindness to front-runners, but the dynamics of the race are much different.
At WO and TP the kickback is so bad that horses usually run three wide on the lead and generally race outside. Saving ground on the rail as in a dirt race will guarantee a trachea full of junk.

#5 08-21-2007, 12:31 AM

shut out test.

Echo Farm · #6 08-21-2007, 10:34 AM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/87781.html

Rags · #7 08-21-2007, 10:59 AM

The DM track is just fine. There's a winner in every race.
The usual losers are crying and whining as always. What else is new?

"Time" is for the Swiss in case anyone is interested.

As for Lava Man, put a fork in he's done.

That was Hello Sunday's best race. He hasn't got anymore than that. Never saw the 2nd horse on the far outside. It didn't really matter, he wouldn't have beaten the winner if the Red Sea opened.