Get your Sundial ready

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 08-19-2007, 06:48 PM

They are about to run a Grade 1 going 10 furlongs at Del Mar.

I actually bet the race....I don't know what possessed me to do so...but I did.

I played an exacta box with Awesome Gem over Lava Man, Albertus Maximus, and Time Squared.

Indian Charlie · #2 08-19-2007, 07:04 PM

anyone who used 3rd or 4th tier 3yos from this crop of 3yos in this race truly needs their heads examined.

King Glorious · #3 08-19-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

anyone who bet 3rd or 4th tier 3yos from this crop of 3yos in this race truly needs their heads examined.

Then again, u could have said the same thing for anyone that bet Student Council. On this junk, u might as well take a shot at boxing the longest shots on the board and see what happens. It's a crapshoot.

Indian Charlie · #4 08-19-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Then again, u could have said the same thing for anyone that bet Student Council. On this junk, u might as well take a shot at boxing the longest shots on the board and see what happens. It's a crapshoot.

true nuff KG, but still, i think i'm the only person remaining who thinks this crop of 3yos is just awful. the top 3 or so in the crop are pretty good animals, but beyond that, blech!

i think part of the reason the top few horses in this crop look so good to people is that there is such a profound lack of depth to this crop, they just standout over their competition so far.

King Glorious · #5 08-19-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

true nuff KG, but still, i think i'm the only person remaining who thinks this crop of 3yos is just awful. the top 3 or so in the crop are pretty good animals, but beyond that, blech!

i think part of the reason the top few horses in this crop look so good to people is that there is such a profound lack of depth to this crop, they just standout over their competition so far.

U aren't the only one. I think Curlin is really good. I think Rags is special. I think I underrated how good Street Sense is at his best. Any Given Saturday is looking really good. But that's it for me for this division.

ArlJim78 · #6 08-19-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Then again, u could have said the same thing for anyone that bet Student Council. On this junk, u might as well take a shot at boxing the longest shots on the board and see what happens. It's a crapshoot.

i bet on Student Council. i thought he looked good against this group, according to all the speed numbers i looked at. a solid well bred horse heading out to face a softer group? and at those odds? i didn't understand why he was ignored but i'm not complaining.

if you look at his pp's he has the type of runstyle that is good for poly. he runs at a high consistent speed, and he has endurance to boot.

Indian Charlie · #7 08-19-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i bet on Student Council. i thought he looked good against this group, according to all the speed numbers i looked at. a solid well bred horse heading out to face a softer group? and at those odds? i didn't understand why he was ignored but i'm not complaining.

if you look at his pp's he has the type of runstyle that is good for poly. he runs at a high consistent speed, and he has endurance to boot.

is that allowable, saying on here you bet on a horse after the race?

ArlJim78 · #8 08-19-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

is that allowable, saying on here you bet on a horse after the race?

no it is frowned upon by many, but then i've noticed that the same people that frown on it also will do in a cute way by saying "attn redboard alert"
i don't bother to do that because i frankly don't care what anyone thinks.

The Bid · #9 08-19-2007, 07:19 PM

He does have a good running style for poly. Hes a slow crow. Any east Coast open 50 claimer can win a Graded stake in California.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 08-19-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

He does have a good running style for poly. Hes a slow crow. Any east Coast open 50 claimer can win a Graded stake in California.

He's been beaten by Throng on both the dirt and the polytrack at Keeneland.

Congrats to whoever had him....he wasn't for me.

JJP · #11 08-19-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i bet on Student Council. i thought he looked good against this group, according to all the speed numbers i looked at. a solid well bred horse heading out to face a softer group? and at those odds? i didn't understand why he was ignored but i'm not complaining.

if you look at his pp's he has the type of runstyle that is good for poly. he runs at a high consistent speed, and he has endurance to boot.

No, I didn't bet him but I like your thinking here. Generally, I do believe Midwest based horses go off at higher odds than they should when they go to EITHER coast.

ArlJim78 · #12 08-19-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP

No, I didn't bet him but I like your thinking here. Generally, I do believe Midwest based horses go off at higher odds than they should when they go to EITHER coast.

thats right, and even though he races for Cerin now, in typical Neil Howard style this horse just kept getting incrementally better with age. If you can compete in Kentucky and Ark with Magna Graduate, Brass Hat, Wanderin Boy, etc you can compete with that group out west today.

The Indomitable DrugS · #13 08-19-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

anyone who bet 3rd or 4th tier 3yos from this crop of 3yos in this race truly needs their heads examined.

I didn't "bet them" I used them with my key horse Awesome Gem...who plugged along happily for 2nd.....only not winning because I had a small win bet on him.

Did anyone catch the final time of this stellar race? I'm sure you could have timed it with a sundial.

Indian Charlie · #14 08-19-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I didn't "bet them" I used them with my key horse Awesome Gem...who plugged along happily for 2nd.....only not winning because I had a small win bet on him.

Did anyone catch the final time of this stellar race? I'm sure you could have timed it with a sundial.

i didnt say bet, i said used.

207.1

The Indomitable DrugS · #15 08-19-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

207.1

They must have really souped up the track for the big day....

I was expecting about 2:10 flat.

Indian Charlie · #16 08-19-2007, 07:14 PM

my over/under going in was 206.

i guess i'm not too smart either.

Danzig · #17 08-19-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I didn't "bet them" I used them with my key horse Awesome Gem...who plugged along happily for 2nd.....only not winning because I had a small win bet on him.

Did anyone catch the final time of this stellar race? I'm sure you could have timed it with a sundial.

i used one mississippi after the two minute mark....thought i was going to get to eight mississippi, but they got to the line in time...

cmorioles · #18 08-20-2007, 01:04 AM

The racing on this stuff is just an eyesore. I hope others enjoy it, I'll stick to betting dirt and turf races. Between the O'Brien and Pacific Classic, I'm not sure which is the worst G1 I've seen. A photo may pronounce it a dead heat.