Any Given Saturday

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

At last, someone with sense..........

Godolphin/Darley don't have a plan, do they even have a clue? They are just mass buying, hoping that something works out. If it doesn't they just go and buy more and more until it does work. Which is why i have said that these stallions better be a hit for your sakes, of the buying will never end.

They have done the same over here with racehorses that they have no intention to breed from, they have just been buying up the racing competition, and they still can't compete. It's a joke.

You act as though they never win a race. Do you not understand that the means of achieving for them is not nearly as important as the final result? They (sheikMo) wants to eclipse Coolmore because he has a personal issue with them. He has the means to pursue his goal and to me it looks as though he is doing a pretty good job of it. The fact is that they pretty much have unlimited money and are not afraid to use it. Maybe it turns you off but that's life.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You act as though they never win a race. Do you not understand that the means of achieving for them is not nearly as important as the final result? They (sheikMo) wants to eclipse Coolmore because he has a personal issue with them. He has the means to pursue his goal and to me it looks as though he is doing a pretty good job of it. The fact is that they pretty much have unlimited money and are not afraid to use it. Maybe it turns you off but that's life.

and you obviously can't see that they are losing ground on Coolmore year after year.

You talk about the final result? Is this result so far in the future that none of us will see it?

They are concentrating so much on what Coolmore are doing, i think they forget that they are running a stable and breeding operation as well. They don't back up their own stallions by buying their offspring at the sales (well, very rarely). Coolmore play the game by paying lots for offspring of their own stallions to make them look more popular and it has worked so far, so it seems. They paid 1,400,000 euros for a son of Galileo in France the other day. Darley seem to forget about their current stallions.

To me, they are looking for a quick fix.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Coolmore play the game by paying lots for offspring of their own stallions to make them look more popular and it has worked so far, so it seems. They paid 1,400,000 euros for a son of Galileo in France the other day. Darley seem to forget about their current stallions.

So they should artificially create a market by buying up horses sired by their stallions, many of which they already own? (in effect buying their own horses)

That is what pissed off the arabs in the first place and you seem to think that this fraudelent practice is a good thing. You can call it playing the game or whatever but when your premier US stallion's(Giants Causeway) yearling averages have dropped from $222,100(2006) to $79,914 (2007)in one year and the medians dropped from $120000 to $61000, I would say that what they are doing may be having an effect.

If you think that Coolmore is going to come out ahead in this matter than be my guest. But I'm thinking that the biggest buyer in the world not buying your product is going to hurt you. The trickledown effect apparantly is already occuring and if you think that Demi O'Byrne spending more of Coolmore's money is going to trick US buyers or breeders, you are sadly mistaken. The handwriting is on the wall.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So they should artificially create a market by buying up horses sired by their stallions, many of which they already own? (in effect buying their own horses)

That is what pissed off the arabs in the first place and you seem to think that this fraudelent practice is a good thing. You can call it playing the game or whatever but when your premier US stallion's(Giants Causeway) yearling averages have dropped from $222,100(2006) to $79,914 (2007)in one year and the medians dropped from $120000 to $61000, I would say that what they are doing may be having an effect.

If you think that Coolmore is going to come out ahead in this matter than be my guest. But I'm thinking that the biggest buyer in the world not buying your product is going to hurt you. The trickledown effect apparantly is already occuring and if you think that Demi O'Byrne spending more of Coolmore's money is going to trick US buyers or breeders, you are sadly mistaken. The handwriting is on the wall.

well said.

game...set...match

[Danzig]

why is darley so determined to go after coolmore? what caused the boycott to begin with?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So they should artificially create a market by buying up horses sired by their stallions, many of which they already own? (in effect buying their own horses)

That is what pissed off the arabs in the first place and you seem to think that this fraudelent practice is a good thing. You can call it playing the game or whatever but when your premier US stallion's(Giants Causeway) yearling averages have dropped from $222,100(2006) to $79,914 (2007)in one year and the medians dropped from $120000 to $61000, I would say that what they are doing may be having an effect.

If you think that Coolmore is going to come out ahead in this matter than be my guest. But I'm thinking that the biggest buyer in the world not buying your product is going to hurt you. The trickledown effect apparantly is already occuring and if you think that Demi O'Byrne spending more of Coolmore's money is going to trick US buyers or breeders, you are sadly mistaken. The handwriting is on the wall.

had no idea giants causeways numbers were down that low. and why is he listed as private--i thought that was generally done only with older stallions who were closing in on retirement?

and no doubt the biggest buyer not buying will hurt. does anyone else ignore coolmore now as well? is darley able to sway some of their buyers not to buy from coolmore? just how far does this all go?