Any Given Saturday

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Do you guys feel this is a superior animal? I am talking horseflesh here not his recent running form.

Personally I think he is a nice horse for sure, but not a top of the breed animal. I think he has shown dramatic improvement as far as running goes in the last 3 months. That to me along with several others in his barn who showed dramatic improvent and or surprisingly brilliant finishes in the last 3 months is a credit to the trainer. It has been at the point where you see a Pletcher "2nd stringer" like Sam P. and you wonder if Sam P. will suddenly show this brilliant finish although nothing on his form suggests it. Mike Mitchell East. This is a horse that looked like he could never make it to 10 furlongs, now he suddenly is the best finishing 3yo.

I understand Distorted Humor is a popular sire and for that reason Any Given Saturday will be popular to some right away. I do not think AGS will be terrible as a sire, he may even produce a few precocious runners or show a little versatility, but I don't see him as a super-sire in waiting.

It is hard to know for sure, but I think he has a good chance to be a good sire. His pedigree is extremely impressive. Not only is he by Distorted Humor, but his dam (Weekend in Indy) is by AP Indy and out of a stakes winning daughter of Spectacular Bid. Weekend in Indy's other foal was also a graded stakes winner.
Now, because most of Distorted Humor's best runners have been either geldings (Funny Cide and Commentator) or relatively new sires (Flower Alley) it is impossible to know if he will make a good "sire of sires" but he certainly might.
As for AGS's performances on the track, other than his two uninspired performances in April and May of this year, he has five wins and two places from seven starts, and given his recent success, seems to be still on the upside of his career. I think he has a better shot than most of becoming a good sire...........if he can overcome the guilt of letting down DrugS.

[Cannon Shell]

Points in no particular order
1. Darley's American breeding operation has been pretty lousy
2. It is no secret that Sheikh Mo wants to do anything in his power to hurt Coolmore (which he has)
3. There is zero chance that they paid $50 mill for AGS
4. Winstar has Distorted Humor, they dont need AGS (plus they think that they going to get one like him every year...), why not cash out before he possibly gets exposed?
5. Speculating on the success of future stallions is difficult because other than proof of being top class, racing performance does not have that much to do with it.
6. Darley's buying these three year olds up because they are convinced that this is an outstanding crop and they want to be a bigger player in the stallion ranks in USA (which they now are)
7. I don't think that they will buy Curlin unless he wins out the rest of the year , then all bets are off.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Points in no particular order
1. Darley's American breeding operation has been pretty lousy
2. It is no secret that Sheikh Mo wants to do anything in his power to hurt Coolmore (which he has)
3. There is zero chance that they paid $50 mill for AGS
4. Winstar has Distorted Humor, they dont need AGS (plus they think that they going to get one like him every year...), why not cash out before he possibly gets exposed?
5. Speculating on the success of future stallions is difficult because other than proof of being top class, racing performance does not have that much to do with it.
6. Darley's buying these three year olds up because they are convinced that this is an outstanding crop and they want to be a bigger player in the stallion ranks in USA (which they now are)
7. I don't think that they will buy Curlin unless he wins out the rest of the year , then all bets are off.

There is every chance they paid $50million for him. Money is no object for them and WinStar had already expressed their delight about standing him next year. There is no way they would have let him go for any less than twice what he is worth. With his pedigree and race record, and the fact he is still improving (so it seems) he would easily be worth $20million at least as a stallion prospect.

Sure, they have Distorted Humor, but these days studs want as many sons of their stallions as they can get. Just like Coolmore wanted as many sons of Danehill as they could get.

I'm pretty certain that they wouldn't have let him go for anything less than $40million.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

There is every chance they paid $50million for him. Money is no object for them and WinStar had already expressed their delight about standing him next year. There is no way they would have let him go for any less than twice what he is worth. With his pedigree and race record, and the fact he is still improving (so it seems) he would easily be worth $20million at least as a stallion prospect.

Sure, they have Distorted Humor, but these days studs want as many sons of their stallions as they can get. Just like Coolmore wanted as many sons of Danehill as they could get.

I'm pretty certain that they wouldn't have let him go for anything less than $40million.

Without saying too much, your number is very high.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Sure, they have Distorted Humor, but these days studs want as many sons of their stallions as they can get. Just like Coolmore wanted as many sons of Danehill as they could get.

They stand 6 stallions. They already have DH and a son. They are not Coolmore.