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Old 08-11-2007, 08:27 PM
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This routine is getting old.
While Im not a fan of artifical surfaces, a comment like this sounds like a disgruntled gambler and not a horseracing fan.
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Old 08-11-2007, 08:36 PM
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You jinxed them, they had a lame one vanned off today.
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Old 08-11-2007, 08:37 PM
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I wouldn't bet a show bet on a four horse field on the shait myself also. I hate the stuff. If trainers would learn to train the horse within its ability these breakdowns and injuries would stop all by themselves. They'll keep running them even harder on the Poly and then what? The problem isn't the surface it's whats running on it.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:51 PM
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I wouldn't bet a show bet on a four horse field on the shait myself also. I hate the stuff. If trainers would learn to train the horse within its ability these breakdowns and injuries would stop all by themselves. They'll keep running them even harder on the Poly and then what? The problem isn't the surface it's whats running on it.
Get used to it and learn to handicap it, because it is the future.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:00 PM
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There will always be a niche for it. Not all tracks will have this stuff trust me. I can still bet the turf like I do most of the time. I'd like to see someone look at the level of horses being injuried on the dirt. I bet it's 70% that they are mid to bottom level claimers who run 15 or more times a year.
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:54 AM
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There will always be a niche for it. Not all tracks will have this stuff trust me. I can still bet the turf like I do most of the time. I'd like to see someone look at the level of horses being injuried on the dirt. I bet it's 70% that they are mid to bottom level claimers who run 15 or more times a year.
You're most likly right about the bottom (over raced) claimers being the ones that are hurt the most. 5k claimers are the main stay at most tracks across the nation and they to deserve to race on a forgiving track.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:16 AM
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Yeah but if know your car is about to quit on you do you one, drive it even more or baby it around until you can get it fixed. It's not a question of they deserve a better track but let them race within themselves. Too many racing dates also has something to do with it. i wonder how many tracks are going on at the same time now? Horses are being split between L.A. Downs and Lone Star now when it used to just be L.A. Downs. Mnr and the other East Coast tracks now that are getting the good stock thinned out. Why is it that some tracks have lesser breakdowns than others? Look at Toga and Oaklawn compared to Turfway. It's not even close. Oaklawn is run in the winter months and they have an excellant track.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:17 PM
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Wow, did anybody see the entry run 1-2 at 24-1?

Cedeno and Antongeorgi....Talamo & Baze finished last and second last.....wow.

*This is not meant as praise for Del Mar. Just didn't want to start another thread.*

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Old 08-11-2007, 08:54 PM
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Huh? You came to that conclusion by me saying it's getting old hearing about this from Sumitas? That's pretty special. Please explain.

Honestly, as long as artificial stays out of New York I am fine with it. I prefer dirt racing, as a gambler and a fan. But I am curious as to how I am disgruntled about a surface I hardly bet.
Why do you complain about increased handle and attendance? I prefere the racing at Toga but it is nice to hear of the sucess at Delmar. I have maintained that if they spent equal $$$$$ on a natural surface, the safety would eaqual out.
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