Arlignton Poly

[NoChanceToDance]

From my experiences of polytrack over here and in america, it's the tracks that are at fault and not the surface itself.

Martin Collins has gone over there and sold it as a maintenance free surface, when it is anything but. The tracks have taken his word for it.

There have been next to no problems on the poly over here since it was laid at Lingfield and Wolverhampton and i find it hard to believe that there is so much mof a difference.

[Riot]

Martin Collins has gone over there and sold it as a maintenance free surface, when it is anything but. The tracks have taken his word for it.

I have never heard claims to, "no maintenance".

Collins' website says, "It provides a safe, durable, high performance, lower maintenance surface."

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have never heard claims to, "no maintenance".

Collins' website says, "It provides a safe, durable, high performance, lower maintenance surface."

i've learned that some people are incapable of understanding these words.
in their vocabulary "safe" means that there will never again be a single breakdown, and "lower" maintenance means NO maintenance.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have never heard claims to, "no maintenance".

Collins' website says, "It provides a safe, durable, high performance, lower maintenance surface."

I believe "virtually no maintenance" is the phrase that was used to sell it in the first place.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I believe "virtually no maintenance" is the phrase that was used to sell it in the first place.

That is more than likely. Our tracks soon realised that the comment was complete rubbish really. Over the winter, the lads at Wolverhampton were working through the night when the track began to freeze.

You have to harrow the poly differently depending on weather conditions.

How deep you harrow then effects speed and times.

I think many tracks have taken what he said to be gospel and just left the track sometimes in dreadful conditions.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have never heard claims to, "no maintenance".

Collins' website says, "It provides a safe, durable, high performance, lower maintenance surface."

Well, i know for a fact that Turfway don't do enough with their surface, which is more than likely the reason for the problems, which they have had with the poly and it is unlikely that other tracks are doing the same.

If you see the amount of work that goes into the poly over here, you'll probably see why we get very few breakdowns at all.

I cannot see how two almost identical surfaces could react and ride so differently without the problem being to do with the ground staff rather than the surface itself.

Polytrack has been a miracle over here, all the trainers love it and it is so safe.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Well, i know for a fact that Turfway don't do enough with their surface, which is more than likely the reason for the problems, which they have had with the poly and it is unlikely that other tracks are doing the same.

If you see the amount of work that goes into the poly over here, you'll probably see why we get very few breakdowns at all.

I cannot see how two almost identical surfaces could react and ride so differently without the problem being to do with the ground staff rather than the surface itself.

Polytrack has been a miracle over here, all the trainers love it and it is so safe.

more of your "facts"?
Turfway races when the temperature is below freezing. its a different animal than other poly tracks. they had a good year and a bad year. they're still trying to get it right. however its much better for them than dirt.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

more of your "facts"?
Turfway races when the temperature is below freezing. its a different animal than other poly tracks. they had a good year and a bad year. they're still trying to get it right. however its much better for them than dirt.

As i was told on another forum, apparently Turfway only harrowed their poly once when it started to freeze. If you only do that you have to expect problems. Poly is okay until it reaches a certain temperature and then it starts to ball up.

If it is kept moving, it doesn't have the chance to freeze or ball up.

[The Bid]

Cannon... Did you notice the gate scratch in the 6th? Im sure the managment didnt want 3 breakdowns in one day so they are being extra careful on the heels of the million. Of course FCC wanted to lose the bad horses, but I doubt he wanted them to breakdown, and I dont think he would have ran them if they felt they were in harms way. Its sad for anyone to lose one on the track, but the fact is they broke down on polytrack. They have had 6 in the last week, thats significant regardless of who they are breaking down for. Especially when I have noticed a significant change in recent times at Arlington. It seems to me they tried to speed up the track and it put the horses in danger.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Cannon... Did you notice the gate scratch in the 6th? Im sure the managment didnt want 3 breakdowns in one day so they are being extra careful on the heels of the million. Of course FCC wanted to lose the bad horses, but I doubt he wanted them to breakdown, and I dont think he would have ran them if they felt they were in harms way. Its sad for anyone to lose one on the track, but the fact is they broke down on polytrack. They have had 6 in the last week, thats significant regardless of who they are breaking down for. Especially when I have noticed a significant change in recent times at Arlington. It seems to me they tried to speed up the track and it put the horses in danger.

it is all the rain that has made it quicker

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Cannon... Did you notice the gate scratch in the 6th? Im sure the managment didnt want 3 breakdowns in one day so they are being extra careful on the heels of the million. Of course FCC wanted to lose the bad horses, but I doubt he wanted them to breakdown, and I dont think he would have ran them if they felt they were in harms way. Its sad for anyone to lose one on the track, but the fact is they broke down on polytrack. They have had 6 in the last week, thats significant regardless of who they are breaking down for. Especially when I have noticed a significant change in recent times at Arlington. It seems to me they tried to speed up the track and it put the horses in danger.

I am always leery of horses on the hard drop to the bottom, especially for connections that aren't the 'sentimental' type. When these type breakdown, track surface is usually incidental.