Zayat is Leaving; Baffert hates it

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

How many graded stakes winners on polytrack have went on to repeat the success on dirt? How many have flopped?

It has pluses and minuses, but it is most definitely a third surface. If you have to pick, it is closer to turf than dirt. I am not saying that is good or bad, but it is not what was advertised.

Don't know, but its a real small sample. I guess Street Sense won the futurity race at Keeneland last fall before the juvenile.

The Bluegrass this year was a disaster and I think not conclusive of much the way it was run. You basically had a tie between 3-4 horses. While Dominican has done nothing since, Zanjero, Street Sense and Tueflesberg have acquitted themselves well and they were all in the photo or close.

I always point out that the 06 Bluegrass didn't prove much either. I think Sinister Minister is still trying to get out of the conditioned allowance races.

Turfway doesn't offer much in the way of graded stakes and we don't know about DelMar yet. Honestly I'm not that taken by any of the graded stakes winners that come out of Ca, even on the dirt. I guess the Pac Classic may shed some light, if the winner can ship out and perform on dirt. But even if they failed you would have to question whether it was the surface or the shipping, or something else, ala Lava Man.

I think a few more years will be required to adequately answer your question.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Don't know, but its a real small sample. I guess Street Sense won the futurity race at Keeneland last fall before the juvenile.

Actually he finished 3rd, the mighty Great Hunter won that race.

[Riot]

So .... are Zayat's horses kicking all comers at Saratoga yet?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Riot

So .... are Zayat's horses kicking all comers at Saratoga yet?

There is a Zayat 2 yo in the 2nd at Saratoga named Maimonides who will be interesting to watch.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

There is a Zayat 2 yo in the 2nd at Saratoga named Maimonides who will be interesting to watch.

Should win for fun...

This colt is the half to El Corredor and Roman Ruler too.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I know the steam king is all over this one and he will probably win by a pole, but at 3-5, it might be worth trying to beat him. Especially going 5 1/2, he breaks a step slow and he's done.

I agree 100%. I kinda like Grand Minstrel a little bit. What do you think?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You got me. I'd love to try and get a pic 4 going by beating him and hoping to get lucky. I might fool around with Grand Minstrel, the Tagg and the Zito.

Hope you cash...

I can't even watch the damn race from work much less play it, but if you're on afterwards, will you post and let me know how the race panned out?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

There is a Zayat 2 yo in the 2nd at Saratoga named Maimonides who will be interesting to watch.

this should be interesting because i think this is the one that they didn't want to run at Del Mar cause of the poly. In fact I think he was entered on opening day but scratched.

[whodey17]

Maimonides looked darn good. Very impressive. I always loved Vindication and his offspring look nice as well.