Zayat is Leaving; Baffert hates it

[The Bid]

They missed days, had horses break down steady in the morning, cancelled training, lied about the track on numours occasions. Whats so good about TWP in the winter? The only shame is they can always fall back on the roads being too bad for the people coming from L'ville to travel. Truth is the track was a total joke, and so is Woodbine in the cold. Del Mar and the rest of the poly will fail in the heat, just give it time. Everyone rushed to put this garbage in once Keeneland got behind it. Before Keeneland was involved the stuff was taboo, suddenly its great when they are peddling it.

No they werent fixed, the horses come over 3 inches taller than they are because it balls up, it kicks back 45 feet and it knocked a horses eye out during a live race.

[Riot]

They missed days, had horses break down steady in the morning, cancelled training, lied about the track on numours occasions. Whats so good about TWP in the winter? The only shame is they can always fall back on the roads being too bad for the people coming from L'ville to travel.

The days Turfway missed, the roads were indeed closed. They didn't lie about that. I know, I live here. I went up to take photos of Sumwon the second day the interstate was open (side roads still ice covered), and the stable area was still an inch of sheet ice, they threw straw down on the main horse paths so they could get to the open track for training.

The steady breakdowns in the morning - I hadn't read or heard anything about that, you can share if you have specifics.

Del Mar and the rest of the poly will fail in the heat, just give it time.

Time will tell. Australia hasn't yet had a problem, but those are not exactly the same artificial surfaces.

[The Bid]

Riot, Ive noted a lot of breakdowns on here if you dig through the old threads. I also drove up from Louisville pleanty of days with no issue and the track was closed... Didnt trian, didnt run, etc. Road excuse was no good. For the record the main horsepath at TWP is also Poly, and it also freezes. I made it from L'ville in about 45 minutes, thats how bad the weather was.

Its just not an all weather surface, it freezes

[Riot]

I made it from L'ville in about 45 minutes, thats how bad the weather was.

It takes me over an hour in good weather to make that trip! I guess that makes you graded stakes, and me claiming company, driving-wise

Its just not an all weather surface, it freezes

If I recall it right, the water retained in the track froze, clogging the draining process, and the retained water in the track made the ice clods people are talking about and you referenced. I don't know what they could do about that. I do know they still had more open days than when it was dirt. Why they didn't consult other cold-weather track supers, like Sniper suggested, before Keeneland purchased an interest in the synthetic surface company (predestining Turfway to conversion first), I don't know.

[The Bid]

I go 90 the entire drive and can make it in 45-50.

The track doesnt weather well. They will have more issues this winter with the same group of excuses. The kickback is ridiculous, it freezes, it balls up, its uneven. I think they lost as many days this year as they have in the past due to "Roads"

One day sticks out in my mind, cold day, TWP cancelled, Beulah ran, and New York ran. They had their tracks under control, while TWP coudlnt control the frozen ice kickback.