Any Given Saturday

Hoist Her Flag · #1 08-05-2007, 08:45 PM

I'm not sure if anybody remembers seeing the quote. I think it was in the Racing Form may have been in one of Steve Haskins Columns. Pletcher said when asked about Circular Quay's long layoff, that he would have rested Any Given Saturday from the Tampa Bay Derby all the Way to the Derby if he had the earnings. So it is conceivable that he may give him only one more race before the Breeders Cup.

#2 08-05-2007, 10:16 PM

Great thread.

I love the battle of Images.

Good for you guys who cleaned up.

Hope you bet him Seattle.

Seattleallstar · #3 08-06-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Great thread.

I love the battle of Images.

Good for you guys who cleaned up.

Hope you bet him Seattle.

I sure did, ill say I hammered AGS, then parlayed it to Nashoba's key.
other bets hit as well. So it was a very good weeeknd. Thanks for asking.

whodey17 · #4 08-05-2007, 10:22 PM

Could the Woodward be a possibility for AGS? Woodward is Sept 1st then the JCGC on Sept 29th and then the BCC on Oct 27th. That is about 4 weeks between each start. If he could beat older horses in one of those races and then perform well in the BCC then he could be 3 year old the year.

letswastemoney · #5 08-05-2007, 10:27 PM

Street Sense is still the leader of the division.

hockey2315 · #6 08-05-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

Could the Woodward be a possibility for AGS? Woodward is Sept 1st then the JCGC on Sept 29th and then the BCC on Oct 27th. That is about 4 weeks between each start. If he could beat older horses in one of those races and then perform well in the BCC then he could be 3 year old the year.

Interesting possibility if he can't run in the Travers but I think TAP will do everything he can to run AGS there. . . He's got plenty of older horses that would be contenders in the Woodward and no one else for the Travers. As we all know you can't have a graded stakes in NY without a Pletcher or two. . .

whodey17 · #7 08-05-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Interesting possibility if he can't run in the Travers but I think TAP will do everything he can to run AGS there. . . He's got plenty of older horses that would be contenders in the Woodward and no one else for the Travers. As we all know you can't have a graded stakes in NY without a Pletcher or two. . .

I would assume he would want to keep Lawyer Ron and AGS away from each other. There is also the Super Derby which I think would fit AGS very well.

hockey2315 · #8 08-05-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

I would assume he would want to keep Lawyer Ron and AGS away from each other. There is also the Super Derby which I think would fit Lawyer Ron very well.

Super Derby's for 3 year olds. . . I think Lawyer Ron either won it or atleast ran in it last year . . .

Slewbopper · #9 08-06-2007, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

I would assume he would want to keep Lawyer Ron and AGS away from each other. There is also the Super Derby which I think would fit AGS very well.

My guess is that Curlin goes to the Super Derby. La Downs will up the purse from 500 K to $1 mil if any of the TC winners shows up. Should Curlin go there, the extra money may be enough to lure AGS to the bayou for a rematch with Curlin.

whodey17 · #10 08-06-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper

My guess is that Curlin goes to the Super Derby. La Downs will up the purse from 500 K to $1 mil if any of the TC winners shows up. Should Curlin go there, the extra money may be enough to lure AGS to the bayou for a rematch with Curlin.

Now that would be very interesting and something that LA Downs would love to market.

Slewbopper · #11 08-06-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

Now that would be very interesting and something that LA Downs would love to market.

Whodey...here is the article from the DRF

http://www.drf.com/news/article/87048.html

whodey17 · #12 08-05-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

You know that Lawyer Ron has no chance to win the Super Derby.

Yes, I meant AGS. Thanks

SentToStud · #13 08-06-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Why would it fit AGS well?

"Why wouldn't it fit AGS well?" might be the better question. He just beat a G1 with three horses better than anything he'd probably see there.

hockey2315 · #14 08-06-2007, 03:35 PM

Not sure if anyone posted this already but AGS ran a 115 Beyer. . . Nice!

VOL JACK · #15 08-06-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Not sure if anyone posted this already but AGS ran a 115 Beyer. . . Nice!

Seems a little high to me.

Danzig · #16 08-06-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Not sure if anyone posted this already but AGS ran a 115 Beyer. . . Nice!

drf article says 113--after a 110 in the dwyer.

whodey17 · #17 08-06-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Why would it fit AGS well?

Well the purse of $500k is very decent, he wouldn't have to beat very much in there (if Curlin goes the purse is $1mm and AGS just demolished Curlin). It is 9f on Sept 22 and the Travers is 10f on Aug 25th which gives AGS plenty of time to rest between now and then and it would be a perfect prep (in the sense of time) before the Breeders Cup on Oct 27th. He wouldnt have to face Street Sense and he wouldn't have to face older horses.

whodey17 · #18 08-05-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I doubt it, not that what you are proposing doesn't make sense. It's just non traditional and the connections know the road to the eclipse goes through Street Sense.

Needless to say, the 2nd half of the year looks pretty interesting.

miraja2 · #19 08-05-2007, 10:50 PM

The interesting thing to me is that after the Street Sense's Jim Dandy and the AGS's Dwyer and Haskell, this year's Tampa Bay Derby shapes up as an even more memorable race.
It could end up being a race like the 2004 Woodward which was a very exciting race at the time, but grew siginificantly in stature given the subsequent accomplishments of the two horses involved in the stretch battle.

Sightseek · #20 08-05-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

The interesting thing to me is that after the Street Sense's Jim Dandy and the AGS's Dwyer and Haskell, this year's Tampa Bay Derby shapes up as an even more memorable race.
It could end up being a race like the 2004 Woodward which was a very exciting race at the time, but grew siginificantly in stature given the subsequent accomplishments of the two horses involved in the stretch battle.

Early move aside in the WV Derby...even the 3rd place finisher has been raking in the cash in the 'second tier' stakes.