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Well who do the Republicans fear? Or they fear none as they have no candidate yet?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well who do the Republicans fear? Or they fear none as they have no candidate yet?

who do they fear? probably petraus.

did you hear that congress has 3% approval rating?

hillary is still far ahead in polls--yet most feel she has no chance in a general election. so in a way, i guess the reps only need fear themselves and making missteps.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

who do they fear? probably petraus.

did you hear that congress has 3% approval rating?

hillary is still far ahead in polls--yet most feel she has no chance in a general election. so in a way, i guess the reps only need fear themselves and making missteps.

I think that notion is changing slowly, on both sides. Some on the right are starting to realize that they can't count on Hillary-Hate as a way to get the Oval Office, and those on the left who don't think she's liberal enough for their tastes are seeing a shift.

Give it some time. We hear so much about her high negatives, yet she's still polling ahead of any named Republican, and she polls higher than a generic "Republican Candidate."

I think a year ago people thought she'd have no chance in the general -- I think it's a big mistake for anyone to assume she has little chance in the general election any longer...she's debating her way into the White House...and just wait until she gets against whichever bumbling fool the Repubs nominate. Guarantee you she will school that person in every debate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that notion is changing slowly, on both sides. Some on the right are starting to realize that they can't count on Hillary-Hate as a way to get the Oval Office, and those on the left who don't think she's liberal enough for their tastes are seeing a shift.

Give it some time. We hear so much about her high negatives, yet she's still polling ahead of any named Republican, and she polls higher than a generic "Republican Candidate."

I think a year ago people thought she'd have no chance in the general -- I think it's a big mistake for anyone to assume she has little chance in the general election any longer...she's debating her way into the White House...and just wait until she gets against whichever bumbling fool the Repubs nominate. Guarantee you she will school that person in every debate.

i just think there are still too many who just won't vote for a woman. and it sure wouldn't bother me if that attitude was to change! i mean, way to consider what they have to say! long way to go, i wish they hadn't started electioneering so soon.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just think there are still too many who just won't vote for a woman. and it sure wouldn't bother me if that attitude was to change! i mean, way to consider what they have to say! long way to go, i wish they hadn't started electioneering so soon.

I just think the more people listen to her talk and get to know her, the more people's misconceptions/preconceived notions of her will change.

The early election campaign thing is obnoxious, but for someone like her, it may be her best asset because it gives people more time to listen to her and sort of get that automatic-Clinton-hating thing out of their heads. We will see, won't we!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that notion is changing slowly, on both sides. Some on the right are starting to realize that they can't count on Hillary-Hate as a way to get the Oval Office, and those on the left who don't think she's liberal enough for their tastes are seeing a shift.

Give it some time. We hear so much about her high negatives, yet she's still polling ahead of any named Republican, and she polls higher than a generic "Republican Candidate."

I think a year ago people thought she'd have no chance in the general -- I think it's a big mistake for anyone to assume she has little chance in the general election any longer...she's debating her way into the White House...and just wait until she gets against whichever bumbling fool the Repubs nominate. Guarantee you she will school that person in every debate.

dream on, polls at this point mean nothing. no one is paying any attention.
if she becomes the apparent nominee the republians will start to poll better, and once in the spotlight her negatives will go up again. don't be surprised if someone you consider a unappealing bumbling dope beats her in the general election handily. i don't even think the Dem nomination is a lock for her, although its looking stronger. things have a way of shifting once actual votes are cast.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

dream on, polls at this point mean nothing. no one is paying any attention.
if she becomes the apparent nominee the republians will start to poll better, and once in the spotlight her negatives will go up again. don't be surprised if someone you consider a unappealing bumbling dope beats her in the general election handily. i don't even think the Dem nomination is a lock for her, although its looking stronger. things have a way of shifting once actual votes are cast.

She'll do just fine, there isn't a Republican candidate with fewer problems than she has. Not one. Their negatives will skyrocket once they get in the spotlight, because with the exception of Giuliani, the majority of the country (the portion that votes but doesn't pay attention in the years in between) has NO IDEA who any of them are or what they're all about.

Normally, I would think that the guaranteed schooling she serves up to whoever challenges her in the debates (really, there's not one Republican candidate who could intellectually/politically go toe to toe with her in a live debate) would make her even more appealing to voters and increase her positives, but then again I tend to forget that being intelligent and well-spoken was only a requirement for being president last century.

[Danzig]

i know she polls in the lead, as does guliani--but like jim said (and i said) it's dammed early....and her negative #'s are high too. long ways to go--and way too soon to tell. but i think obama has hurt himself, and it looks like mitt romney is doing better. but the polls have the two with the most name recognition in the lead, which makes perfect sense right now.
i'm waiting for a year from now!

i like some things hillary has said, but she is too socialist-leaning for me. guliani has said some things i agree with, but....i don't trust him at all.