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Old 07-13-2006, 03:48 PM
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What do you mean?

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$1,400 ticket does not mean you have a signer.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:49 PM
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What do you mean?

Its based on the odds.

If I play a $100 straight exacta and it pays me $1,400....I don't have to pay taxes on it.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:51 PM
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I am confused, it's based on the odds of the horse(s) ?

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Its based on the odds.

If I play a $100 straight exacta and it pays me $1,400....I don't have to pay taxes on it.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:52 PM
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I am confused, it's based on the odds of the horse(s) ?
No...its based on the odds of how much you have invested in the ticket vs. the payout.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:53 PM
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got ya, thats how it works

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No...its based on the odds of how much you have invested in the ticket vs. the payout.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:54 PM
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I should know this having been a Teller but it never came up
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:58 PM
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I believe where I'm at it's 300-1 (or 600-2 as steve said) means you have to sign.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:53 PM
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miss ya and love you too bro.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:54 PM
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I'd be pretty dang worried handing a stranger my winning ticket just to try to avoid taxes...but I guess it happens. What happens when they bolt?
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:57 PM
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One individual tried this move a couple months ago and lets just say that he was found and dealt with in a physical manner. True story, I know the loser from the track who tried to pull this off. I can tell ya that at Beulah and Scioto their are 2 or 3 guys every single day their that do nothing but sign

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I'd be pretty dang worried handing a stranger my winning ticket just to try to avoid taxes...but I guess it happens. What happens when they bolt?
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:59 PM
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If the winning ticket is supposed to be a IRS ticket...the tote machines WILL NOT print them out.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:00 PM
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No matter where you are at it's 300-1 odds....unless you are wagering off shore.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:02 PM
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No matter where you are at it's 300-1 odds....unless you are wagering off shore.

So that example w/the daily double is wrong then...right?
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Old 07-13-2006, 05:02 PM
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No matter where you are at it's 300-1 odds....unless you are wagering off shore.
This is semi true...it is 300/1 when you play the ticket for $2....if you play a $1 pick three and it pays $450 per $1, it isn't a tax ticket

So, for example

Scav plays three total tickets

$2 pick three 1/2/3
$1 pick three 1/2/3
$1 pick three 1/2/3

the pick three hits and pays $450 per $1...You would have 1 tax ticket (the $2 pick three ticket) and two tickets that you could just cash becase they are under $600....
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:03 PM
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If it over $1200 dollar payout for a $2 ticket, it's a signer(of course that means if the $1 payed over $600, it's a signer as well)...

I dont think this is true. I think if its $600 or over on $2 its a signer.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:04 PM
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I will have to go back and look....
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:10 PM
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The point in all this is to make $1 wager twice so the total wager equals $2. That way is the winning tickets pays $1150 for a two dollar, you dont have to pay taxes. But you cant put a singor into the machine like Oracle has stated.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:58 PM
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You pay taxes when you hit for $600 or higher based on a $2 ticket.

Say if you hit a double that pays $700 for $2. If you were smart enough to place $1 tickets you would be exempt from the taxes. But if you made a straight $2 wager or higher you pay taxes. Always make $1 wagers on exotics.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:00 PM
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What happens when they bolt?

Its your own fault if you stoop to this level so I guess you got what was coming to you. Theres certainly no legal action you can take, since you are the one breaking the law called tax evasion in the first place.
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