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[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Independent George

Don't be surprised at anything King Glorious says. He is beyond cold-hearted. Only someone without an ounce of sensitivity or huamnity would feel nothing when viewing a dogs maiming each other for the sport of others, or when seeing a horse break down....any horse. But he loves to be controversial & he loves to disagree, but he is a mental midget. You're best bet is to ignore him....thats one thing he is sensitive about.

If it were humans, I WOULD feel something. To say I don't have any humanity when it's animals u are talking about doesn't make much sense.

Something interesting Pgardn said. He said that my opinion doesn't necessarily make me a good or bad person. I appreciate that. But to be honest, I would agree with those that say there is often a correlation between those that feel the way I do and those that would be apt to commit worse crimes. And to further that, I would also say that I'd agree that more often than not, those that feel the way I do are bad people overall. But that doesn't mean that we all are. I was brought up seeing dog and cock fighting on a regular basis. I never enjoyed it. There's also the possibility that when I first saw it, I was disgusted by it although it was so long ago that I don't remember. Afterwhile though, u just become desensitized to it. It happens all the time. Imagine if u lived in Darfur and had to see the dead bodies everyday, some of them your friends and family. At first, u would be horrified. But if u see it everyday, it doesn't have the same impact on u. This is very common in the ghettos of North America also. It's sad that this happens but it happens nonetheless.

Nobody is looking to be controversial at all. I'm not trying to disagree or argue with anyone either. I can't argue their opinion or how they feel. I can, however, argue facts. And the fact is that there are plenty of people out there that are like me that don't have a feeling about it either way but at the same time, don't condone it. And it doesn't mean that all of us are scum and a step away from being ready to rape or murder another human.

U know what is interesting is that ultimate fighting and mixed martial arts are two of the fastest growing sports in the country. I refuse to watch it at all or let my kids watch it because I feel that it's barbaric and dangerous. I could easily sit here and pass judgement on those that watch that stuff and say that they are cruel and sadistic people for enjoying watching two humans beat the hell out of each other, watching their faces get swollen up, blood all over the place, guys get put into comas, etc. But that's not for me to say. Everyone decides what they can accept and what they can't. Everyone decides what they enjoy and what they don't.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If it were humans, I WOULD feel something. To say I don't have any humanity when it's animals u are talking about doesn't make much sense.

Something interesting Pgardn said. He said that my opinion doesn't necessarily make me a good or bad person. I appreciate that. But to be honest, I would agree with those that say there is often a correlation between those that feel the way I do and those that would be apt to commit worse crimes. And to further that, I would also say that I'd agree that more often than not, those that feel the way I do are bad people overall. But that doesn't mean that we all are. I was brought up seeing dog and cock fighting on a regular basis. I never enjoyed it. There's also the possibility that when I first saw it, I was disgusted by it although it was so long ago that I don't remember. Afterwhile though, u just become desensitized to it. It happens all the time. Imagine if u lived in Darfur and had to see the dead bodies everyday, some of them your friends and family. At first, u would be horrified. But if u see it everyday, it doesn't have the same impact on u. This is very common in the ghettos of North America also. It's sad that this happens but it happens nonetheless.

Nobody is looking to be controversial at all. I'm not trying to disagree or argue with anyone either. I can't argue their opinion or how they feel. I can, however, argue facts. And the fact is that there are plenty of people out there that are like me that don't have a feeling about it either way but at the same time, don't condone it. And it doesn't mean that all of us are scum and a step away from being ready to rape or murder another human.

U know what is interesting is that ultimate fighting and mixed martial arts are two of the fastest growing sports in the country. I refuse to watch it at all or let my kids watch it because I feel that it's barbaric and dangerous. I could easily sit here and pass judgement on those that watch that stuff and say that they are cruel and sadistic people for enjoying watching two humans beat the hell out of each other, watching their faces get swollen up, blood all over the place, guys get put into comas, etc. But that's not for me to say. Everyone decides what they can accept and what they can't. Everyone decides what they enjoy and what they don't.

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

Well,if I even barely step on a dogs paw,they loudly squeal.So,you can imagine the sounds these people are able to put up with in these matches.If you can tolerate that,then you can tolerate human suffering.I am not buying the argument that it would bother him if it was human suffering.Why would he tell you what he really feels? DUH..........You know they have this thing in Ohio that they used to do.They have a ring of people surrounding foxes,and they have their kids beat up the foxes with sticks.The argument is that these people can do this,but would stop when it comes to doing it to humans.I don't buy it.You either find suffering disgusting,or you don't.If you can tolerate dogfighting,then you can easily tolerate human suffering. They can sell this "I got my limits" crap all they want,but I am not buying their garbage.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

i agree with your take on this one Danzig. The only thing I'll add is that humans that decide to enter the ring do so of their own choice. A dog or a rooster doesn't.