vick told NO camp

#1 07-23-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Agreed....but an indictment still must run it's course, and this punk will draw his check, unlike Tank Johnson, who after paying fines and prison time(paying his debt,so to speak) has no job and is suspended for half the season. That doesn't seem right to me!

indictment does not need to run its course for the NFL to take action they are a private Company and have that right on top of that all this stuff is in the contracts all these guys sign they have strong ground to stand on and I say good **** Mike Vick he is a Ghetto over paid Bum who has never and will never win anything. I hope he gets time.

deltagulf · #2 07-23-2007, 10:57 PM

be out of football for good.. by just being involved in this.
that would get the rest of the nfl players attention. to go my the book.

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 07-24-2007, 02:01 AM

Just from listening to the reports about what he's accused of doing.....that's some really disgusting stuff.

If true, that is one seriously messed up person.

He makes Pacman Jones look like a wonderful person. Going to strip clubs with rowdy, thug, friends who get you in trouble doesn't make you a bad person. Vick, on the other hand, is more than deserving of everything he gets. Assuming these four witnesses the feds have are even slightly credible.

byalip · #4 07-25-2007, 11:51 AM

Goodall made the right call.

NFL has reserves the right to suspend and more without the legal due process. Someone mentioned the "obscene amount of money"...so keeping your conduct squeaky clean should be enough of an enticement to behave.

Personally, I'd send Vick straight to Guantanomo and forget about him and his legal rights.

Danzig · #5 07-25-2007, 06:21 PM

i saw yesterday where atlanta had intended to give him a four game suspension.

wooooooow. tough love that.

thank god for goodall, since many owners haven't got the intestinal fortitude (read cajones) to stand up and say NO to their star players.

altho, vick is so incredibly overrated-i don't see star stats under his name. not even top 20 last year in qb's, with a 52% pass completion. well on his way to the hall of fame! or hall of shame. more pr and hype than substance. so why put up with so much, pay so much for an average player??

what am i thinking?! he sells tickets.

money talks.

timmgirvan · #6 07-25-2007, 07:19 PM

coach-killa!

SniperSB23 · #7 07-25-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i saw yesterday where atlanta had intended to give him a four game suspension.

wooooooow. tough love that.

thank god for goodall, since many owners haven't got the intestinal fortitude (read cajones) to stand up and say NO to their star players.

altho, vick is so incredibly overrated-i don't see star stats under his name. not even top 20 last year in qb's, with a 52% pass completion. well on his way to the hall of fame! or hall of shame. more pr and hype than substance. so why put up with so much, pay so much for an average player??

what am i thinking?! he sells tickets.

money talks.

I'm pretty sure a four game suspension is the maximum punishment that any team can hand down. It is a tough situation, if they cut him they will have to cut about 10 other players to absorb the salary cap hit. Of course that's why you don't give someone that much money in signing/roster bonuses in the first place.

Crown@club · #8 07-25-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm pretty sure a four game suspension is the maximum punishment that any team can hand down. It is a tough situation, if they cut him they will have to cut about 10 other players to absorb the salary cap hit. Of course that's why you don't give someone that much money in signing/roster bonuses in the first place.

Actually Falcons would save 6 mil this year, but take a 15 mil hit next year, if they release Vick.

King Glorious · #9 07-26-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by byalip

Goodall made the right call.

NFL has reserves the right to suspend and more without the legal due process. Someone mentioned the "obscene amount of money"...so keeping your conduct squeaky clean should be enough of an enticement to behave.

Personally, I'd send Vick straight to Guantanomo and forget about him and his legal rights.

Wow. Dog killing on par with terrorism suspects. Sounds about right.

King Glorious · #10 07-26-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That may be a stretch, but I can tell you honestly, I wouldn't be against it. It's about the person. Someone who would do this doesn't have an appreciation for life of any kind, so worse stuff isn't that far off. I do admire your continued support and I have finally figured out why.

Please, don't keep me in suspense. Let me know the reason why I support him.........even though I don't. Did I show my support for him by saying that I don't think he's a good person and would never send my kids to any football camp he was hosting? Did I show my support for him by saying he's not someone I could ever see hanging out with? Maybe I showed my support for him when I said that because there is a lot of smoke, I'd be more inclined to believe that he's guilty than innocent? Or was it when I said that if he's found guilty, he should get the same penalty as anyone else would, nothing less? I am curious as to what I've said here that makes u think I support him? The only things I've been in support of are the law, due process, and the theory that a man is innocent until proven guilty. I've said that because of where I'm from and the culture I grew up in, I don't see dog-fighting as that serious of an issue. But that doesn't mean that I don't understand that it's against the law and again, I have been in support of the law and the appropriate punishment that comes with breaking it. I'd hope that when u say that u have finally figured out why I'm in support of him, even though I'm not, that u are saying it's because I'm African American as he is and that I'm going to blindly be on his side simply for that reason. I'd really hope that isn't why u say u have figured it out.

King Glorious · #11 07-26-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I had no idea you were African American, so no that's not it, but nice try. It is of my opinion that you are in support of him. You have said you think he did nothing wrong, but respect the law. So if he did nothing wrong, you agree with him right? You tried to make this about a culture thing, which it surely is not. Now please don't try and make this a race thing, no one else was. This is a humanity thing.

I think the speed limit law is stupd in a lot of places. But I fully understand that the laws are in place and when I'm caught breaking them, I don't complain that I don't deserve the penalty that comes with it. I didn't say that I thought he did nothing wrong either. If he's guilty of what they are saying he is, he DID do something wrong. He broke the law. Now, if u want to ask me if I think the law is just or unjust, that's a different issue. That's where my issue lies. If it were up to me, it wouldn't be against the law because it doesn't bother me. But it's not up to me and it is against the law. I'm just disappointed that u would say it's your opinion that I am in support of him when nothing I've said has said that. If he were found guilty, I'd be perfectly fine with him going to jail, if that's the same penalty anyone else would get. If he were found guilty and kicked out of football, in accordance with Goodell's new policy, I would have absolutely no problem with that either. I do believe that I have said that I do not think that Vick is a good person overall. Yet u still say that I support him. So I guess that if I don't follow the mob and suggest before he gets a chance to be tried that he be banned from football, sent to Guantanomo and killed........that I am supporting him. Ok, if that's your opinion.