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07-21-2007, 07:16 PM
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congrats if you had it
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07-21-2007, 08:27 PM
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Same here. I've touted people on non-chalk horses I really believed in, but didn't pan out. And felt bad for the touting if anyone listened to me. (only once, here) By the same token, I've nailed some double digit hits that no way in the world would I have felt confident to coerce someone to go along with me on, but liked 'em just the same. Maybe OneBadBeast just liked where Alonso Quinonez was breaking from in this race considering the horses around him and the way the polytrack has been playing?
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07-21-2007, 09:12 PM
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that being said the polycrap sucks. I dont want to sound like sour grapes but I have been betting socal since I was a kid and know what the **** I am doing and betting on, but this **** is sickening. Today was the most fair day yet but its just random guessing on the long shots. I heard brad free say spread in the multi race plays but its hard to go 10x10x10 what good is sounder horses if you cant handicap them? The crux of the game is still betting and sound horses wont mean much if you cant come close to breaking even. I am actually up so far this week thank god to the turf, if they remove that I might be done forever.
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07-21-2007, 09:24 PM
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Nothing Else Came Through The Rest Of The Day. I Am Having Mental Trouble "calling In" Voice Bets. Do Better On The Computer, But No Expressbet Del Mar.
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07-22-2007, 11:30 AM
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07-22-2007, 03:50 AM
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So, I may be wrong. But, if I am reading the Del Mar charts correctly, 6 winners also had OneBadBeast's hit in the first leg of the Pick 6 to collect a $112,000+ win?
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07-22-2007, 10:15 AM
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Ok, I just read the charts from yesterday at Del Mar. Please tell me that there is an error on there. Please tell me that Buzzard's Bay, whom I've never thought too highly of but also never thought of as complete garbage, didn't LEAD the San Diego through fractions of 24.54, 49.46 and 1:14.06 and STILL couldn't hold on, finishing 8th, beaten more than 13 lengths. I can't believe that is how that race unfolded. Anytime a horse that's a graded stakes winner is allowed to lead a race in 49 and change and 1:14 and change on the dirt, they should be conceded the victory right then and there, especially in a race that's only 8.5f. What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?
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07-22-2007, 11:41 AM
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kind of ironic as they skipped the Gold Cup, where the pace was slowish, for this spot. I do think it is MUCH tougher to wire around two turns rather then 1. Looking at the race though there were 7 horses withing a length or two of winnning, that tells me that the surface makes it that screwed up and we know nothing more now then we did before the race so what good is it as a handicapper?
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07-22-2007, 11:49 AM
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FWIW, I read somewhere yesterday that one of the jockeys said the track is playing well for the horse that has "one run." Paraphrasing, he said he believed that any horse that has to work hard during the race to maintain a position is more likely to wear down and tire in the polytrack. Another FWIW is that I read in advance elsewhere from Sun Boat's trainer that they were planning to go with the late run strategy. The trainer of Buzzard's Bay was quoted somewhere as saying they were going for the lead early and often (paraphrased). The jockeys are still going to school on the strategy poly at Del Mar.
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07-22-2007, 06:11 PM
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and as for the reboarding..if you hit it congrats..but many here get alot of crap when they put out picks that dont pan out...so sence all dters are good people if you liked the horse put it on the board so others can get on it....in advance...
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07-22-2007, 06:17 PM
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......if churchill and belmont switch to that ridiculas poly
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