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Old 07-21-2007, 02:00 PM
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how about Afleet Alex ?
i thought about that as well. while we're at it, how about kitten's joy?
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:32 PM
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Afleet Alex is a poor cross
Rahy works well in many ways
Smart Strike would make the foal inbred 2x4 to Mr. P which is too close for me
Pleasant Tap works on blood but is probably too big
Quiet American would be 3x4 to Mr. P but would most likely produce a real coarse foal
Charismatic is not under consideration
Summer Squall is dead
Sunday Silence is dead
Unbridled is dead but would be a poor match if we could somehow revive him
Awesome Again is a great match
Kittens Joy is a no because of conformational issues and the fact that I think he has zero shot to be a good stallion
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:35 PM
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Afleet Alex is a poor cross
Rahy works well in many ways
Smart Strike would make the foal inbred 2x4 to Mr. P which is too close for me
Pleasant Tap works on blood but is probably too big
Quiet American would be 3x4 to Mr. P but would most likely produce a real coarse foal
Charismatic is not under consideration
Summer Squall is dead
Sunday Silence is dead
Unbridled is dead but would be a poor match if we could somehow revive him

Awesome Again is a great match
Kittens Joy is a no because of conformational issues and the fact that I think he has zero shot to be a good stallion
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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dumb question, why is Afleet Alex a poor cross?
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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dumb question, why is Afleet Alex a poor cross?
Afleet to Mr P has never worked very well.
I will be surprised if AA is a good stallion
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:19 PM
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Afleet Alex is a poor cross
Rahy works well in many ways


Arch?
War Chant?
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:00 PM
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Arch?
War Chant?
Arch is ok
I am not a big War Chant fan. His horses have been very ordinary and very few handle dirt. He is more like a 10k stallion
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:05 PM
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Arch is ok
I am not a big War Chant fan. His horses have been very ordinary and very few handle dirt. He is more like a 10k stallion
So should we send an invite to Rahy for dinner and a movie?
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:36 PM
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So should we send an invite to Rahy for dinner and a movie?
If he is still alive ...
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:58 PM
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:25 PM
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Unbridled is dead but would be a poor match if we could somehow revive him
Wait! I have tail hair from Unbridled ... let me call one of the private genetic companies ....
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:13 PM
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Afleet Alex is a poor cross
Rahy works well in many ways
Smart Strike would make the foal inbred 2x4 to Mr. P which is too close for me
Pleasant Tap works on blood but is probably too big
Quiet American would be 3x4 to Mr. P but would most likely produce a real coarse foal
Charismatic is not under consideration
Summer Squall is dead
Sunday Silence is dead
Unbridled is dead but would be a poor match if we could somehow revive him
Awesome Again is a great match
Kittens Joy is a no because of conformational issues and the fact that I think he has zero shot to be a good stallion

Then wouldn't Unbridled's kid Empire Maker not be a good match.
Now that I look at Charismatic.. not good on classic numbers at all.
So.. since Charismatic's sire and Mineshaft's sire had the same dam..
(Summer Squall is listed as pentioned not dead but he may be dead. Same difference)
The problem I see with all of these freshman sires is... unproven and the buzz may be over by the time Sumwon's baby hit auction. Not that I know a ding dong thing about this.

say.. Congaree raced until he was 5 so maybe will produce sound babies
heck..

Rahy is still available $60,000 for 2007
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:42 PM
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Then wouldn't Unbridled's kid Empire Maker not be a good match.
Now that I look at Charismatic.. not good on classic numbers at all.
So.. since Charismatic's sire and Mineshaft's sire had the same dam..
(Summer Squall is listed as pentioned not dead but he may be dead. Same difference)
The problem I see with all of these freshman sires is... unproven and the buzz may be over by the time Sumwon's baby hit auction. Not that I know a ding dong thing about this.

say.. Congaree raced until he was 5 so maybe will produce sound babies
heck..

Rahy is still available $60,000 for 2007
Why are you all about breeding her already? Unless something happens, she is gonna be a force for like the next two-three years
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:57 PM
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Why are you all about breeding her already? Unless something happens, she is gonna be a force for like the next two-three years
Yeah, hopefully by the time she retires there will be little Street Sense's, Curlin's, and Hard Spun's going through the sale rings.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:08 PM
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Why are you all about breeding her already? Unless something happens, she is gonna be a force for like the next two-three years
Chuck brought it up on the website besides mares have been known to race.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:30 PM
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Just think of the name possibilities for a RH10 and Sumwon baby....
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:49 PM
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I have a general breeding question that somewhat relates to sumwon...

What kind of sire would work well with a horse like 'sumwon'? She seems to be a middle distance type horse. she also has the turf pedigree from Moll and the dirt pedigree from Came home.

Should she be bred to a sprinter? Distance horse? or even possibly a turf horse? Just want to hear people's opinion's and reasoning. Any ideas?
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:55 AM
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Just think of the name possibilities for a RH10 and Sumwon baby....
i think rock hard ten would be a tremendous mistake. too much size, bad legs--and sumwon is a little long in the pastern, so that is something you would want to try to correct. with her size, i don't think a big horse would be a good idea.
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