Sumwon TG 9 at AP

Unstable · #1 07-16-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

81 Beyer I believe.

That's what Bigsmc said.

Riot · #2 07-16-2007, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the Beyer

Scav · #3 07-16-2007, 03:42 PM

This is a very good number, she hasn't regressed yet and keeps on moving forward. There has been a pattern of horses pair/pair/top and that is looking like it is possible next out.....

trifecta124 · #4 07-16-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

This is a very good number, she hasn't regressed yet and keeps on moving forward. There has been a pattern of horses pair/pair/top and that is looking like it is possible next out.....

I think she wins by 5 lengths pulling away in the stretch @ the Spa.

I will be there to root her on whatever day it may be.

AeWingnut · #5 07-16-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

This is a very good number, she hasn't regressed yet and keeps on moving forward. There has been a pattern of horses pair/pair/top and that is looking like it is possible next out.....

What kind of top are we talking about? What kind of numbers do stake horses run?

I just hope she stays well and runs well.

Scav · #6 07-16-2007, 08:03 PM

my rough guess is mid seven, or even a 7.

Stakes horses can run thing, but that 7 range means you are competitive....

SniperSB23 · #7 07-16-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

What kind of top are we talking about? What kind of numbers do stake horses run?

I just hope she stays well and runs well.

Well with a thorograph you can get a rail skimming trip and win a stakes race with a 9 or get a terribly wide trip and lose running a 5. The nice thing is Sumwon should usually not lose too much ground so is more likely to win with a 7 than a horse that goes wide would. A 9 on Thorograph coverts to about a 77 Beyer on average. It isn't suprising that it is lower than the actual Beyer of 81 since she didn't lose much ground which is factored into the Thorograph figure.

Scav · #8 07-16-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well with a thorograph you can get a rail skimming trip and win a stakes race with a 9 or get a terribly wide trip and lose running a 5. The nice thing is Sumwon should usually not lose too much ground so is more likely to win with a 7 than a horse that goes wide would. A 9 on Thorograph coverts to about a 77 Beyer on average. It isn't suprising that it is lower than the actual Beyer of 81 since she didn't lose much ground which is factored into the Thorograph figure.

I agree. I should have been more descriptive regarding some other stuff. Fact is that for the progression to continue, Chuck just needs to continue what he is doing, and that is keeping her happy and letting her come into her own.

SniperSB23 · #9 07-16-2007, 08:31 PM

Anyone have the Thorographs for Rags to Riches? I'm curious how her Las Virgenes where she was wicked wide compares to her Oaks and Belmont figures.

AeWingnut · #10 07-16-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I agree. I should have been more descriptive regarding some other stuff. Fact is that for the progression to continue, Chuck just needs to continue what he is doing, and that is keeping her happy and letting her come into her own.

Ok, just wondering how much improvement there is to be had. She has moved up so much as it is. Guess we'll find out next month.

So far there have been horses that move up to listed stake races beating her. Rebecca Maker should take Green Door to a listed stake race next start just from Sumwon's PP alone