RAGS TO RICHES: Fever.. No Oaks..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm kinda doubting she goes in the Dandy so she will probably train up to the Alabama. The Test/Travers double would be a pretty cool achievement if they wanted to prove her greatness.

The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.

It would make a good betting race if she went in

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.

Octave is most likely going to be one lucky filly.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.

Insert Frankel for pletcher and its a common ploy

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Frankel is as slick as they come.

[Alan07]

Even though Rags to Riches has been withdrawn from the Coach Club American Oaks, ESPN will not be covering Saturday's Grade II, $300,000 San Diego Handicap at Del Mar.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Even though Rags to Riches has been withdrawn from the Coach Club American Oaks, ESPN will not be covering Saturday's Grade II, $300,000 San Diego Handicap at Del Mar.

Are you sure? Del Mar's website is saying they will cover it live.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.

I completely agree...especially considering a horse like Dream Rush could be eight lengths in front of her when they straighten away.

NT

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.

No doubt that she would have to be as great as people are making her out to be to pull it off. Would be a lot more fun to see than the Alabama will be.

[Sightseek]

Folk worked Sunday and she is one of the few nominated that didn't run over the weekend.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Folk worked Sunday and she is one of the few nominated that didn't run over the weekend.

Humble Janet is also nominated. Wouldn't that be something?

[SniperSB23]

Octave, Folk, and Lady Joanne look to be the only three possibles that can pass for a G1 horse. And who knows if any of them will be ready.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Octave, Folk, and Lady Joanne look to be the only three possibles that can pass for a G1 horse. And who knows if any of them will be ready.

I wonder if Pletcher would be real gutsy and enter Panty Raid? Although she hasn't posted a work since the American.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.

Disagree to an extent, while I understand your angle Society Selection (a certified Toga freak) pulled off the CCA run-Test-Alabama, and while SS was a top quality filly I'm positive Rags is better than her (and is competing against a weaker crop, for that matter.)

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.

Very possible. But then again, she might just have a fever.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by philcski

Disagree to an extent, while I understand your angle Society Selection (a certified Toga freak) pulled off the CCA run-Test-Alabama, and while SS was a top quality filly I'm positive Rags is better than her (and is competing against a weaker crop, for that matter.)

Society Selection wasn't coming out of a race like the monumentally slow paced Belmont Stakes, and she is FAR better suited for sprint races than Rags to Riches.

SS was out of the brilliant sprinting dam Love That Jazz (a half to Sea of Secrets), and I believe she won her debut going 5 furlongs at Saratoga.

Rags To Riches is simply not bred to be a sprinter, and acts nothing like a spritner. I said she'd win the Kentucky Oaks after her 7 furlongs MSW win because I felt she looked pretty nice winning that race, and it was painfully obvious she would improve her form tremendously with more ground to work with.

I would bet against her with unbridled enthusiasm if she did run in the Test. Which obviously won't happen.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Society Selection wasn't coming out of a race like the monumentally slow paced Belmont Stakes, and she is FAR better suited for sprint races than Rags to Riches.

SS was out of the brilliant sprinting dam Love That Jazz (a half to Sea of Secrets), and I believe she won her debut going 5 furlongs at Saratoga.

Rags To Riches is simply not bred to be a sprinter, and acts nothing like a spritner. I said she'd win the Kentucky Oaks after her 7 furlongs MSW win because I felt she looked pretty nice winning that race, and it was painfully obvious she would improve her form tremendously with more ground to work with.

I would bet against her with unbridled enthusiasm if she did run in the Test. Which obviously won't happen.

Agree completely that SS was much better bred for 7f than Rags, and she did win going short at 2 at Saratoga (I was there that day, she was 31-1 and charged down the center of the track through the slop), but the truth is she might be good enough to win outside of her optimal distance. She won the Las Virgennes at a mile already this year.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The rest of your post was dead on, and I believe SS also won the one turn Comely earlier on.

This is the part of your post that intrigues me. Unbridled enthusiasm? Who logged in under your name and is now posting as DrugS?

He has been showing his poetic side lately.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Ever since I came back from the dead.