Drug Free Racing

[geeker2]

A couple of timely document in the San Diego paper:



http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...z1s16bute.html


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...16delmeds.html

[parsixfarms]

Did anyone else think that the manner in which Randy Moss addressed the Biancone situation (merely assuring the audience that Biancone believes that he did nothing wrong and that he "sleeps well at night") yesterday on ESPN's coverage of the Delaware Handicap was nothing short of pathetic?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Did anyone else think that the manner in which Randy Moss addressed the Biancone situation (merely assuring the audience that Biancone believes that he did nothing wrong and that he "sleeps well at night") yesterday on ESPN's coverage of the Delaware Handicap was nothing short of pathetic?

Very disappointing.. Moss had a chance to show some leadership on the subject - as Andy Beyers has! - We need others in the Media to get on board and have the guts to speakout ...Kudos to Andy !!

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Very disappointing.. Moss had a chance to show some leadership on the subject - as Andy Beyers has! - We need others in the Media to get on board and have the guts to speakout ...Kudos to Andy !!

Actually, the media should start calling high-profile owners out on why they employ these people.

Jeanine Edwards interviews the owner of Asi Siempre and doesn't ask him a single question about the Biancone situation. Why do Jess Jackson and Satish Sanan, those advocates of cleaning up racing, employ Asmussen? And for that matter, why has Will Farish started to employ Asmussen to train some of his horses? When "industry leaders" are not ashamed of their associations with these shady characters, it tells me that they are not really serious about cleaning up the game. It's simply another case of "do as I say, not as I do."

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cardus

And don't forget Barry Irwin's laughable response during a bloodhorse.com chat a few months ago about Pletcher's "accidental contamination" (of a horse not owned by Valor).

Yeah. I've always tried to figure out how the administration of mepivicaine to a horse in the stall next to Tales of Glory resulted in Tales of Glory testing positive. I guess the laws of physics cease to exist in the Todd Pletcher barn.

And let's no forget about how Team Valor employs Dale Romans to train some of its Kentucky stock.

[Honu]

Fifty years ago in racing the large breeding farms controlled the stock , they culled out what they wanted and raced what they wanted , which may have not been a bad thing . They had control of the stallions and most of the good broodmares and sent what they thought were the best to the track , if a horse proved to be no good they simply culled it out, gelded it , sold it , killed it ,whatever but they didnt keep them.
You can see a trend starting in the 70's with private ownership of stallions , they were being offered to the public and the owner of the stallion approved your mare or not. That was the beginning of the end of the big farms ruling the racing world and deciding what was a good horse and what wasnt.
So now you have every Tom , Dick and Harry thinking they have a stallion prospect or a broodmare prospect if their horse can just get a graded win and sometimes not.
Dont blame the horses and dont blame the trainers , blame the people who have the stallions and mares and breed them and sell them . So you can basically say this what people want , they want speed not endurance , they want a fast 2 yr old and a quick turn around , they want the chance to profit from a limited amount of running so they can capitalize on the trends.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Honu

Fifty years ago in racing the large breeding farms controlled the stock , they culled out what they wanted and raced what they wanted , which may have not been a bad thing . They had control of the stallions and most of the good broodmares and sent what they thought were the best to the track , if a horse proved to be no good they simply culled it out, gelded it , sold it , killed it ,whatever but they didnt keep them.
You can see a trend starting in the 70's with private ownership of stallions , they were being offered to the public and the owner of the stallion approved your mare or not. That was the beginning of the end of the big farms ruling the racing world and deciding what was a good horse and what wasnt.
So now you have every Tom , Dick and Harry thinking they have a stallion prospect or a broodmare prospect if their horse can just get a graded win and sometimes not.
Dont blame the horses and dont blame the trainers , blame the people who have the stallions and mares and breed them and sell them . So you can basically say this what people want , they want speed not endurance , they want a fast 2 yr old and a quick turn around , they want the chance to profit from a limited amount of running so they can capitalize on the trends.

Couldn't agree more, which is why I'm starting to watch the europeon racing more. They still breed for distance.
On a side note, how's the Tinman feeling?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Honu

Dont blame the horses and dont blame the trainers , blame the people who have the stallions and mares and breed them and sell them .

Blame them for what?

Do 99% of the horses racing today really need to be running on lasix? Are the people who have the stallions and mares the ones over-medicating horses?

I'm tired of hearing about how wonderful all of these legal performance enhancing drugs are.

Perhaps these stoutly bred stamina horses that you seem to think we need more of, can't win, even going a distance, because legal performancing enhancing medications are helping to carry a fleet footed horse further along. And many of them are being weeded out of the pedigrees in favor of horses who would simply not be as effective at carrying their speed if they raced only on hay, oats, and water.

You think breeders should have to try and breed slowpoke endurance horses who can't win, or are up-against it, in the current enviornment racing is in?

If a horse can't run to his good form without the aid of one of these wonderful legal drugs....let them go to another racing jurisdiction where they tolerate these splendid and wonderful drugs in a horses system on race-day.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Though ESPN broadcasts racing sporadically throughout the year anyway -- when its broadcast is not interrupted by an over-run preceding game, of course -- do you think that Moss would have addressed the situation differently if ESPN did not have the Breeders' Cup this year?

No, I think he just took a dive on the issue. ESPN's relationship with the NFL and MLB has not stopped its reporters, etc., in those arenas from frequent comment on steroids/off-the-field legal problems.