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Old 07-15-2007, 11:46 PM
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Del Mar Has Always Been A Crapshoot Anyway. So I Dont Care If They Run On Beachsand, Concrete, Coal, Or Cracked Glass; Every Race Will Have The Possibility To Make A Retirement Score!
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:55 AM
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I think synthetic racing will produce favorite/longshot syndrome. Winning favorites at around 40-45% but more head scratching 40-1 shots that make no sense as well. So if you like betting in the 3-1 to 12-1 range, you better look at other tracks.

Re: Frost Alert, when the field hit the backstretch, I thought something was up. How on earth could he have been 10-1? Hail Victory had cleared by at least a length at the opening call in his last 8 races.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:58 AM
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If the favorites win at a 40-to-45% clip at Del Mar I will be shocked.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:02 AM
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It won't happen in their first meet. Same with Arlington. But eventually, when 98% of the local horse population has run over it, I wouldn't be surprised. And field size will have something to do with that as well.

Didn't Saratoga have a recent year with over 40 % winning favorites? A number of years ago, Arlington was close, and that is a long meet.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:07 AM
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I would be incapable of living in a world where faves win 40-45% of the time. . .
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:56 AM
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Didn't Saratoga have a recent year with over 40 % winning favorites?
Yes, at least once. I know favorites posted incredible numbers in one of the years Pletcher had an amazing meet. I believe Dave Litfin called it "the graveyard of value" that season.

Saratoga is a meet where favorites have won at a high percentage throughout the last decade really.
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:29 AM
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Wasn't the first Keeneland meet after poly known for the early speed essentially being a liabilty with closers at long unfathomable odds paying like Xmas for those with imagination for seemingly random outcomes. Del Mar may be Xmas in July for the 40+ days this summer.....
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:34 AM
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Wasn't the first Keeneland meet after poly known for the early speed essentially being a liabilty with closers at long unfathomable odds paying like Xmas for those with imagination for seemingly random outcomes. Del Mar may be Xmas in July for the 40+ days this summer.....
The races were run like alot of turf race where all the riders waited and made that charge to the wire when they turned for home. Del Mar will be a watch and see what the riders try to do before you can handicap a race.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:09 AM
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Yes, at least once. I know favorites posted incredible numbers in one of the years Pletcher had an amazing meet. I believe Dave Litfin called it "the graveyard of value" that season.

Saratoga is a meet where favorites have won at a high percentage throughout the last decade really.
I think if you take out the turf races that number would be even higher.
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