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Old 07-15-2007, 10:14 PM
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Looking back on that horse today, I saw how he was playable. YOu could have argued 2nd off the layoff, speed and fade, but yes I agree, it was shocking...
I had 6 winners today... but that horse was definitely NOT one of them.
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:46 PM
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Del Mar Has Always Been A Crapshoot Anyway. So I Dont Care If They Run On Beachsand, Concrete, Coal, Or Cracked Glass; Every Race Will Have The Possibility To Make A Retirement Score!
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:55 PM
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I think synthetic racing will produce favorite/longshot syndrome. Winning favorites at around 40-45% but more head scratching 40-1 shots that make no sense as well. So if you like betting in the 3-1 to 12-1 range, you better look at other tracks.

Re: Frost Alert, when the field hit the backstretch, I thought something was up. How on earth could he have been 10-1? Hail Victory had cleared by at least a length at the opening call in his last 8 races.
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:58 PM
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If the favorites win at a 40-to-45% clip at Del Mar I will be shocked.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:02 AM
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It won't happen in their first meet. Same with Arlington. But eventually, when 98% of the local horse population has run over it, I wouldn't be surprised. And field size will have something to do with that as well.

Didn't Saratoga have a recent year with over 40 % winning favorites? A number of years ago, Arlington was close, and that is a long meet.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:07 AM
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I would be incapable of living in a world where faves win 40-45% of the time. . .
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:56 AM
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Didn't Saratoga have a recent year with over 40 % winning favorites?
Yes, at least once. I know favorites posted incredible numbers in one of the years Pletcher had an amazing meet. I believe Dave Litfin called it "the graveyard of value" that season.

Saratoga is a meet where favorites have won at a high percentage throughout the last decade really.
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:29 AM
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Wasn't the first Keeneland meet after poly known for the early speed essentially being a liabilty with closers at long unfathomable odds paying like Xmas for those with imagination for seemingly random outcomes. Del Mar may be Xmas in July for the 40+ days this summer.....
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:09 AM
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Yes, at least once. I know favorites posted incredible numbers in one of the years Pletcher had an amazing meet. I believe Dave Litfin called it "the graveyard of value" that season.

Saratoga is a meet where favorites have won at a high percentage throughout the last decade really.
I think if you take out the turf races that number would be even higher.
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