Circular Quay

ArlJim78 · #1 07-11-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You mean his owner and his employees liked him too????

Wow, he must be great.

Yeah, they're always hyping their horses.

blackthroatedwind · #2 07-11-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Yeah, they're always hyping their horses.

I'm not getting into this here but you either sort of know about Coolmore or you just don't.

dellinger63 · #3 07-11-2006, 07:20 PM

and you don't.
They were here for a shopping trip and to watch the World Cup on American soil. LOL

SentToStud · #4 07-11-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

and you don't.
They were here for a shopping trip and to watch the World Cup on American soil. LOL

That's a good one. I'm also sure they tempered their excitement and started to wring their hands when it came back an 83 beyer.

dellinger63 · #5 07-11-2006, 07:26 PM

I might be ignorant but I give extra consideration to horses that close into a slow pace ie this one. Not speaking BC or Derby but CQ has impressed the hell out of me depite Andy Beyer.

blackthroatedwind · #6 07-11-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I might be ignorant but I give extra consideration to horses that close into a slow pace ie this one. Not speaking BC or Derby but CQ has impressed the hell out of me depite Andy Beyer.

Now it was a slow pace? Please explain that in relation to the other six furlong races and their respective paces. You may also want to explain how the #1 horse closed from Lexington after getting completely left at the gate if the pace was indeed slow ( which it wasn't ).

By the way, I highly doubt any legitimate speed figures gave him a good number. Considering his ground saving trip I doubt Ragozin or Brown rated him particularly highly either.

dellinger63 · #7 07-11-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now it was a slow pace? Please explain that in relation to the other six furlong races and their respective paces. You may also want to explain how the #1 horse closed from Lexington after getting completely left at the gate if the pace was indeed slow ( which it wasn't ).

By the way, I highly doubt any legitimate speed figures gave him a good number. Considering his ground saving trip I doubt Ragozin or Brown rated him particularly highly either.

then bet against him with both hands next time out. That's why we have mutual pools.

Pointg5 · #8 07-11-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I might be ignorant but I give extra consideration to horses that close into a slow pace ie this one. Not speaking BC or Derby but CQ has impressed the hell out of me depite Andy Beyer.

In dirt races, I do not think it's all that impressive to close into slow fractions, usually means that the competition was not good enough to keep going if the pace was slow, I think it's a negative. I do not really have an opinion either way on CQ yet, all that I can say is that he has not lost and it's hard to fault a winner....

blackthroatedwind · #9 07-11-2006, 07:27 PM

You think they aren't acutely aware that his numbers were mediocre?

If so, you have now called them stupid, and that is one thing they aren't.

Thunder Gulch · #10 07-11-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

That's a good one. I'm also sure they tempered their excitement and started to wring their hands when it came back an 83 beyer.

How can anyone get hung up on the Beyer in July-good, bad, or ugly- of the 2yo season is beyond me. For the record, Thunder Gulch's (CQ's sire) first five races were Beyers of 69, 82,79,79,89. His numbers went up with distance, something that I would expect with this colt when he ran for the first time over a mile winning the Remsen.