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Old 07-11-2007, 05:15 AM
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:16 AM
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what a moron. sermonizing about the sanctity of marriage but then shows up in a madam's black book.

doesn't it seem like most all of the figures who set themselves up to be righteous examples of moral values for us, seem to all in due time have worse foibles than the average joe on the street?
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:01 AM
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what a moron. sermonizing about the sanctity of marriage but then shows up in a madam's black book.

doesn't it seem like most all of the figures who set themselves up to be righteous examples of moral values for us, seem to all in due time have worse foibles than the average joe on the street?
That what strikes me as so incredible. The very people claiming self-righteous piety are the ones who dabble. Very strange. I think this is a requirement for tele-evangelists... Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart... and the list goes on.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:14 AM
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You generally dont have to tell someone what you are. Ive always found the people who tell you...Oh Im this, or Im that, are pretty much the opposite.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:28 AM
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:42 AM
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what a moron. sermonizing about the sanctity of marriage but then shows up in a madam's black book.

doesn't it seem like most all of the figures who set themselves up to be righteous examples of moral values for us, seem to all in due time have worse foibles than the average joe on the street?
Too true.
Amazing is the report where the "outing" came from...Larry Flynt's investigation for his magazine.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:50 AM
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Too true.
Amazing is the report where the "outing" came from...Larry Flynt's investigation for his magazine.
larry strikes again.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:24 AM
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larry strikes again.
Yup.
Now I need to do a web search for the Times Picaune (sp) editorial by Vitters, the one where he stated that Clinton should be impeached for lack of "moral character". It's from 98 or 99.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Too true.
Amazing is the report where the "outing" came from...Larry Flynt's investigation for his magazine.
haha, another scoop for Larry.

i remember another one from the moral high ground, Bill Bennett, I think he even wrote a book called The Book Of Virtues. Now for the most part I like the guy and think he quite smart, but then several years ago it came out that he blew like hundreds of thousands of dollars on slot machines. So two things came to mind. One, obviously it was his money to blow but when you are preaching virtue for the masses you might want to make sure your own backyard is clean.

the other thought was from a gamblers perspective. I mean how smart can he be putting that much money into slots? the worst possible gambling endeavor, a sure loser. Of course if he was addicted to horse racing I could have more sympathy.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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haha, another scoop for Larry.

i remember another one from the moral high ground, Bill Bennett, I think he even wrote a book called The Book Of Virtues. Now for the most part I like the guy and think he quite smart, but then several years ago it came out that he blew like hundreds of thousands of dollars on slot machines. So two things came to mind. One, obviously it was his money to blow but when you are preaching virtue for the masses you might want to make sure your own backyard is clean.

the other thought was from a gamblers perspective. I mean how smart can he be putting that much money into slots? the worst possible gambling endeavor, a sure loser. Of course if he was addicted to horse racing I could have more sympathy.
Bill Bennett...well, anyone that would rather feed a one-armed bandit than back a horse shows their "brain power".
Here's the Times-Picayune opinion...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20...nation/3212734
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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here's this--vitter on clintons impeachment:

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/20...st_from_vi.php

and vitter came clean because larry flynt was getting ready to 'out' him. way to go larry!!
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here's this--vitter on clintons impeachment:

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/20...st_from_vi.php

and vitter came clean because larry flynt was getting ready to 'out' him. way to go larry!!
Oh yes. He can go to counseling and get better.
Same with homosexuals... three weeks of counseling at a good religious institute and they will be just fine. I'm cured, I'm cured, praise the Lord.

Thanks for the little read Z. Crazy stuff.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:07 AM
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and vitter came clean because larry flynt was getting ready to 'out' him. way to go larry!![/quote]
"marriage is sacred, burn the gays, to hell with them. they are ruining the sanctity of marriage . so are the adulterers. pass a law to ban them all !" "now excuse me while i call my escort service." yeah, a real class guy. and who votes for morons like this? the religiuos morons thats who. kind of says alot about our great citizens.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:49 AM
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what a moron. sermonizing about the sanctity of marriage but then shows up in a madam's black book.

doesn't it seem like most all of the figures who set themselves up to be righteous examples of moral values for us, seem to all in due time have worse foibles than the average joe on the street?
it is ironic, isn't it? any time anyone sets themself up as having great moral character, well--they should practice what they preach. it's always incredible to me when a pol talks about ethics, and they break it, or marriage vows, and they break them....it's also funny to methat so many criticize bill and hill for (gasp) staying married! aren't couples supposed to stay married? used to be you were chastised for divorcing. their marriage may not be what many would want ( i would not!) but if it works for them, who else cares?? i'd imagine they're both pretty honest to the other about why they remained so. if it works for them, great.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:34 AM
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it is ironic, isn't it? any time anyone sets themself up as having great moral character, well--they should practice what they preach. it's always incredible to me when a pol talks about ethics, and they break it, or marriage vows, and they break them....it's also funny to methat so many criticize bill and hill for (gasp) staying married! aren't couples supposed to stay married? used to be you were chastised for divorcing. their marriage may not be what many would want ( i would not!) but if it works for them, who else cares?? i'd imagine they're both pretty honest to the other about why they remained so. if it works for them, great.
well yeah I agree, I may not care for the Clintons or their politics, but I certainly think that its out of bounds to say anything about their marriage. You're right, despite everything that has gone on they're still married and that shows some level of conviction.

Another point I give to them is that it would seem that despite being in the spotlight and some turmoil, they did a decent job raising Chelsea, who seems to be an upstanding young girl. Not mentioning any names but you can just look around at some of the other examples of politicians kids who have strayed. I don't care who your are or your political view, it is not easy bringing up kids today.
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