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Old 07-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Well, Condi takes her orders from GWB...I doubt he's had an original thought since he became President. I agree that we need a multi-national Islamic presence...but that takes statesmanship from the US...an axymoron!
The OXYMORON is the multi-national Islamic presence(herding mean cats)
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:02 PM
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TImm: my 2 pennies...
The NY Times would be considered more liberal but it is a great paper. There is no paper in this country that does a better job reporting foreign affairs. If you dont read it, your missing out. The NY Times Science section is very good also. I cant think of a paper that has better writers.

The Wall Street Journal is also excellent... what happens down the road remains to be seen.

I also think the guy on FOX on Sunday morning does an excellent job interviewing. He is very well read and if a question yields an answer he did not expect, he is immediately on it with unscripted questions that are very good. He is excellent at catching contradictions. The guy is very good at this.
Fox craters with the O'Reilly and that other entertainer. And will someone please kick Lou Dobbs in the groin. CNN is just horrid. Charlie Rose on PBS is very good for late night stuff as long as he does not have one of his artsy/fartsy friends on. I also enjoy George Will. One of the few conservatives commentators that actually understands science.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM
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The OXYMORON is the multi-national Islamic presence(herding mean cats)
I agree. Won't ever happen. Every nation in the region has a differing agenda and most are probably too afraid of Iran to participate. I got it. We get an Israeli security force to tamp down violence while the US military scampers clear.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:58 PM
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I agree. Won't ever happen. Every nation in the region has a differing agenda and most are probably too afraid of Iran to participate. I got it. We get an Israeli security force to tamp down violence while the US military scampers clear.
Which strenghtens the Jihadists forces...as now they have a single enemy! I do believe that we'll never be free from the terrorists. So, we have to fight them somewhere!
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Which strenghtens the Jihadists forces...as now they have a single enemy! I do believe that we'll never be free from the terrorists. So, we have to fight them somewhere!
timm.
Are you stating that all Islamic people are radical Jihadist forces?
You might be surprised to find that the majority of the people of that faith are not, anymore than all Christians are Crusaders.

So...your solution to this debacle besides "never ending war"?
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:44 PM
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timm.
Are you stating that all Islamic people are radical Jihadist forces?
You might be surprised to find that the majority of the people of that faith are not, anymore than all Christians are Crusaders.

So...your solution to this debacle besides "never ending war"?
DTS: Must you always "beg the question"? You know I'm doing nothing of the sort! The Jihadists aren't going to stop planning and attacking anytime soon! The attacks in London,Scotland and the aborted attacks in US are proof that the terrorist will not be minimised unless America is able and ready to deal with them militarily.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:08 PM
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DTS: Must you always "beg the question"? You know I'm doing nothing of the sort! The Jihadists aren't going to stop planning and attacking anytime soon! The attacks in London,Scotland and the aborted attacks in US are proof that the terrorist will not be minimised unless America is able and ready to deal with them militarily.
timm,
Honestly, I didn't "beg the question", I asked one.
The attacks in London and Scotland were thwarted by luck, and investigated by security agencies (police intelligence), not military.
So, as regards the USA, and given the fact that one fourth of the leadership positions at Homeland Security remain unfilled, ummm.., ugh,
Sorry, Timm. Good intelligence provides more security than all the brave military service, (and I commend their efforts).
Remember, wars are fought with countries. "Terrorists" know no boundaries.
This isn't the mission of the military, but rather, the covert (intelligence) departments.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:28 PM
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Terrorists know no boundaries, but this country still isn't ready for what is coming as far as attacks! They're too inconvenienced to pay attention to things that might interrupt their daily lives. And the Dems will fund for more intelligence...I don't think so!
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