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07-08-2007, 09:51 AM
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I first found out about this via e-mail from Equiform. They are providing free "Xtras" in a effort to get their customers to play the Pick-4 at Ellis. be glad to forward the e-mail with the product to anyone who's intersted.
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07-08-2007, 10:42 AM
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I have never been a fan of Ellis, either, but you have to admire their attempt.
The sport needs more attractions like this. I think more and more facilities are finding the slots are not the golden parachute it was once thought to be (thought they help). And, attractions that cater to the base of the game's audience are the best way to attract and turn around business.
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07-13-2007, 01:49 PM
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I think it's very important to support this 4% takeout bet.
Look, even if you create a $100 ticket by throwing darts at the entries, you are giving up just $4 in average expected loss. Surely you can rationalize a $4 "expense" as a tradeoff for the excitement of the bet AND doing something for the future of the game (from the bettors' standpoint). If even a savvy board like this doesn't en masse recognize the advantage of betting into a 4% takeout vs betting into a 15-20% takeout, then racing's decision-makers can safely conclude that race-bettors do not care about takeout. --Dunbar
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07-13-2007, 01:53 PM
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From what I've seen, the pools have been pretty strong. $35,000+ on weekdays is good for Ellis, no?
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07-13-2007, 02:01 PM
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Yesterday they handled $1.7 Mil. Arlington handled $3.5 Mil. The Ellis p-4 had higher handle than either of the Arlington p-4's.
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07-13-2007, 03:49 PM
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Why shouldn't that Pick-4 pool be over $100K? That would be attention-getting. What if it got big enough to actually siphon off simulcast money from other tracks? That would get a lot of people's attention. We should all be talking this up to bettors we know. I hope it gets mentioned a lot at ATRAB. Beyer should devote a column to it. --Dunbar
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07-13-2007, 04:00 PM
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It would help if every race on the card wasn't a low level claiming race.
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07-13-2007, 01:59 PM
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The pools have been $37,000 on avg the past two days. Much better than this past weekend when they were competing against Churchill.
Would be nice to see the pools reack $60,000+ on the weekends. Oh and you can play for $.50 and the avg payouts have been strong so far.
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07-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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07-13-2007, 07:52 PM
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07-13-2007, 08:01 PM
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Pick 4 pools at Ellis
7/6 - 13,979 7/7 - 24,419 7/8 - 20,787 7/11 - 36,417 7/12 - 37,438 7/13 - 49,858 Now this is a nice looking trend. Ok someone help me out here. On 7/8 the pool was 20,787 and the payout was 79,795.80. What am I missing here?
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#13
07-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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They have a $0.50 minimum wager, but post a $2 payout. There was one winning $0.50 ticket.
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07-13-2007, 11:06 PM
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All I play now is Ellis Park
mostly b/c of the takeout but also b/c of all the Fair Mount Park shippers who are trained by Ralph Martinez as automatic as they come.
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