Bush is now a liberal.

[Danzig]

Just 45 days after the September 11 attacks, with virtually no debate, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act. There are significant flaws in the Patriot Act, flaws that threaten your fundamental freedoms by giving the government the power to access to your medical records, tax records, information about the books you buy or borrow without probable cause, and the power to break into your home and conduct secret searches without telling you for weeks, months, or indefinitely.


last i saw, congress is made up of members from both parties. this is what hysteria will get you.

[Mortimer]

Dan..






...what is your primary malfunction here?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Just 45 days after the September 11 attacks, with virtually no debate, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act. There are significant flaws in the Patriot Act, flaws that threaten your fundamental freedoms by giving the government the power to access to your medical records, tax records, information about the books you buy or borrow without probable cause, and the power to break into your home and conduct secret searches without telling you for weeks, months, or indefinitely.


last i saw, congress is made up of members from both parties. this is what hysteria will get you.

scaring people is the best way to get and keep power. even these chumps figured that out. the question should be "when was george bush a conservative?" 20 million illegals, open borders, debt up to our asses, intervening on a family crisis (teri shaivo), wiretapping, e-mail reading , nation building on and on and on . yeah he's the most conservative i've ever seen .lol. maybe if your trying to conserve on good ideas that is . !

Getting back on topic sort of... this is from the Balco steroid case in which a lawyer, Ellerman, was given time for leaking information about the case...

White also rejected Ellerman's argument that he should get a lighter sentence because President Bush commuted former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's 2½-year prison sentence for perjury to probation. White said to do so would open the door to doling out unduly lenient sentences for other white collar criminals.

"If Mr. Ellerman is dissatisfied with his sentence, he should seek a commutation from the president," White said.



And it spreads. Judge White is apparently aware and having some fun with it.

ANd I will take bets. Bush pardons Scooter near the end of his term. Bush sticks with his friends. Loyality above all.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Getting back on topic sort of... this is from the Balco steroid case in which a lawyer, Ellerman, was given time for leaking information about the case...

White also rejected Ellerman's argument that he should get a lighter sentence because President Bush commuted former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's 2½-year prison sentence for perjury to probation. White said to do so would open the door to doling out unduly lenient sentences for other white collar criminals.

"If Mr. Ellerman is dissatisfied with his sentence, he should seek a commutation from the president," White said.



And it spreads. Judge White is apparently aware and having some fun with it.

ANd I will take bets. Bush pardons Scooter near the end of his term. Bush sticks with his friends. Loyality above all.

Okay, since this thread has been revived, here's something to read (if you're really, really interested) -- congressional testimony from a "liberal defense attorney."

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/Cochran070711.pdf

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

Okay, since this thread has been revived, here's something to read (if you're really, really interested) -- congressional testimony from a "liberal defense attorney."

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/Cochran070711.pdf

ShadowRoll: this is really unfortunate for Mr. Rita! Sounds like an over-aggressive DA got a great case to build his rep(one thing I hate about DA's) I was only able to peruse the 9 page pdf, but this guy's phsyical health and well being will be sorely tested in Prison! More later...thanks for the link!

[SentToStud]

The power to pardon was highly debated among the founding fathers.

Among the first pardons were those issued to people convicted as a result of the Whisky Rebellion, after their (over)vigorous protest over excise liquor taxes.

I supported those pardons.