Gaza And Hamas

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

this will never end till the total invasion of palistine by the isr.army...and i have a feeling they are close...the other arabs have their own problems..they wont care imo if the humas terror govt is gone..

Ok, my LAST POST here. (copyright permission from Eldora)...

Lot's of people think that way. That's ok,... but there ARE other points of view to be offered up.

Total invasion close? Nah, isn't gonna happen. Ask yourself this....

What's taken so long?

Who's stopping it?

Who gains from change... who gains from no change?

Make love, not war.

Reach one, ....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

lol bruce ..im just tired of all the useless killing...for most of my life ive seen it on tv and just hope they could work it out..bet they never will...

[Downthestretch55]

Here is an article that gives the history.
If you skip the first few paragraphs, the rest is very informative.
For those that are interested:

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0711-23.htm

The problem can be solved. But here is what it will take.

The true recognition that Israel has a right to exist by all Arab Nations. Most of the Palestinians are now being used to shed their blood in order to punish Israel. This part is very simple. The Palestinians have so many other countries with their favorite little terrorist groups (ex Syria-Hamas) that they keep supplying weapons and saying fight on brother while not one of them die. Money keeps pouring in to these Nations who want to create a constant state of fear and chaos for the Israelis. The Palestinians are the Pawns.

When is the last time a protest took place in an Arab nation protesting the deaths of innocent Jews in Israel by rocket attacks? Now take the other side. There are a huge number of groups in Israel who defend the everyday Palestinians sometimes horrific treatment by Israel. They are totally being drowned out now though.

This is the major difference. A strong democracy in the middle east with what I deem to be of superior moral character that comes from basic Judeo-Christian ideals; these beliefs, that are incorporated into so many secular governments (including our own)...Basic individual rights, the right to worship as you please, the rule of law, the freedom to criticize your own government; all of these are basic Judeo-Christian ideals adopted by many other groups because they are extraordinarily humane.

[Downthestretch55]

Pat,
What you say makes a lot of sense.
As of now, Israel is playing with a heavy hand (fist).
My sympathies are with the thirsty children, old people, and innocents.
Words just might solve the problem, but as of now, fresh water would suffice.
DTS

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Pat,
What you say makes a lot of sense.
As of now, Israel is playing with a heavy hand (fist).
My sympathies are with the thirsty children, old people, and innocents.
Words just might solve the problem, but as of now, fresh water would suffice.
DTS

I feel very bad for the Palestinian farmers just trying to make a living. Or the merchant... let me sell my goods and dont hurt my family. But the working Palestinians do not have weapons supplied by other governments, and then many get brainwashed after the Israelis knock their houses down. I guess I would to. And many of the people causing trouble in Gaza and the West Bank are not Palestinians. They are completely dependent on Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, some Egyptian groups... it is terribly sad. But the Palestinian that wants to live in peace will have to make their voices heard. The outside influences and generations of bad blood is gonna have to stop because Israel is around for the long term. Israel is not going anywhere. They have to see this. They can try to make the Israelis live as painfully as possible, but they are never going to live the absolutely horrid lives many Palestinians have to endure. It does not have to be this way.