Bush is now a liberal.

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Keith makes good points but limits his comments to Nixon and Bush, what about Democratic misuse of the pardon? Anyway, Bush seems to sink further and further into the ideology of "divine right"...and he's scaring the hell out of me!

No doubt, Somerfrost. Scares me, and most of the other inhabitants of the planet as well.
Here's what he said when he was Governor of Texas, “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own, unless there are new facts or evidence of which a jury was unaware, or evidence that the trial was somehow unfair.” - GWB

And, obviously, DaHoss didn't take the time to read Howard Zinn's article about putting away the flag. Oh well.
Seems that when beleivers are confronted with truth, they still cling to their "beliefs".
"And so it goes." - Kurt Vonnegut

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

No doubt, Somerfrost. Scares me, and most of the other inhabitants of the planet as well.
Here's what he said when he was Governor of Texas, “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own, unless there are new facts or evidence of which a jury was unaware, or evidence that the trial was somehow unfair.” - GWB
And, obviously, DaHoss didn't take the time to read Howard Zinn's article about putting away the flag. Oh well.
Seems that when beleivers are confronted with truth, they still cling to their "beliefs".
"And so it goes." - Kurt Vonnegut

he didn't pardon him, said that a jury found him guilty. he only cut off the jail time--which many felt was excessive, and it was his right. had libby been allowed to remain free while appealing, this probably would not have happened. coincidentally, phil spector, on trial for murder, remains out on bond throughout his trial.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

he didn't pardon him, said that a jury found him guilty. he only cut off the jail time--which many felt was excessive, and it was his right. had libby been allowed to remain free while appealing, this probably would not have happened. coincidentally, phil spector, on trial for murder, remains out on bond throughout his trial.

Danzig,
Commutation protects Libby from the civil action until the appeal is resolved.
He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, after an investigation by a special prosecutor (appointed by Bush), in a court presided over by a judge that was also appointed by Bush.
Libby is absolved and will serve no time for his four felonies (obstrucion of justice-guilty). That's a lot less than Paris Hilton served for her misdemeanor.
Many others that have been found guilty of the same charge of obstruction of justice (330, and I need to search for the link) have not been afforded the same consideration. "With liberty and justice for all" -Pledge of Alligience

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Danzig,
Commutation protects Libby from the civil action until the appeal is resolved.
He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, after an investigation by a special prosecutor (appointed by Bush), in a court presided over by a judge that was also appointed by Bush.
Libby is absolved and will serve no time for his four felonies (obstrucion of justice-guilty). That's a lot less than Paris Hilton served for her misdemeanor.
Many others that have been found guilty of the same charge of obstruction of justice (330, and I need to search for the link) have not been afforded the same consideration. "With liberty and justice for all" -Pledge of Alligience

no, no jail time. but still has to pay out a quarter of a million dollars.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

no, no jail time. but still has to pay out a quarter of a million dollars.

250 donors at a 1000 GOP dinner.
Speaking engagements, book deals, Cheney hush money?
Don't cry for Scooter. The "family" protects its own.
He'll be fine, just fine.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

250 donors at a 1000 GOP dinner.
Speaking engagements, book deals, Cheney hush money?
Don't cry for Scooter. The "family" protects its own.
He'll be fine, just fine.

who the hell is crying for him? not me.
'the family'? that reminds me, we watched the godfather the other day.

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/...bby/index.html


this **** bothers me

clinton has the guts to say that when he also lied in court (w/ the monica thing - granted i didnt think a bj was that big of a deal, but a lie under oath is a lie under oath if ya ask me)

and the whole whitewater shiat - and the fact clinton pardoned everyone and their mother.

what a loser




now, i dont mind dumbocraps, i mean democrats. well actually i do mind, but i am not real fond of republicans in the past 4 years or so, but, if Hillary wins this gosh darn thing I'm outta here.

I would love to see a woman president, or any minority president, just no Hillary, please.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

DTS, I didn't take the time to read it, nor anything else you cut and paste on here. Frankly, I don't care what Howard Zinn's thoughts are. If by calling me a believer, you are insinuating that I am a fan of Bush or his administration, you couldn't be more wrong, although you being wrong certainly isn't anything new to us here at Derby trail.

The truth of the matter is that I actually agree with a good deal of what you say, but see, since you are so wrapped up in yourself, you lose those who do agree with you. You know what, you're right. So far today i haven't thought about the Declaration of Independance or the Constitution once. I am enjoying my day off from work. My friends are coming over in a bit and we are going to have a good time. Is that so bad? You should try it sometime.

Life's too short to spend all day worrying about stuff you cannot control, because if you really did care you would be spreading your message somewhere other than a horse racing board. Get over yourself and get out of your basement. Turn some lights on in the house and enjoy the day.

Dahoss,
Nice words. enjoy your day off.
"What, me worry?" Alfred E Newman